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  1. au-yt

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    Great idea!
     
  2. GLB

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    Works, too. The QP3 / Biturbo sunvisor mounts that MIE sells are made that way. Are these covers the same as on a '74 GTV? Those look pretty simple. My son uses a 3D laser scanner to get the basic shape, cleans that up, then has parts printed by an outside company, usually Shapeways. Although they mainly do artsy stuff, the accuracy is there.
     
  3. au-yt

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    #5753 au-yt, Apr 21, 2015
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    The Khamsin seats are based on the Alfa GTV seats as is the Lambo Espada.
    The head rest knob bezel is the same see picture, but the knob is different.
    The rest of the seat rake and brake over mechanism (just as rare) are series one 105 1600 GTV ALFA.
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  4. staatsof

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    Espada doesn't work quite like that. The rake adjustment and release lever are on opposite sides. :( I wish it did! It uses a variation of the Fiat 124 spider seat hinges as well as seat tracks.

    The actual seat frames and cushions are kind of crummy in construction once you get the leather off of them, very rough metal work. Pirelli cushions though!

    That's an unusual looking interior. But yes I do see a lot of similarities in the seat bottom bucket design.

    I wish the it all worked like my Biturbo because that releases the seat back as well as track so that entry into the rear seat is much easier. Though they do tend to get loose feeling after about 25K miles.
     
  5. Nembo1777

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    Good evening all,

    The new owner of AM120US1228 which had completely the wrong exhaust has bought and is fitting a Qucksiklver exhaust system but has a problema: please see his words below, thanks in advance for any help!

    Marc

    "...speaking of the Quicksilver exhaust system,
    there is an issue with it where you might be able to provide some insight. It
    all fit into the car just fine, with the mounting points lining up nicely, but
    there is a 6" gap between the exhaust manifolds and the next pipe (see
    picture). I've had the dreaded response from quicksilver ("we supply this
    system with some frequency and not encountered this issue before";). So either
    the manifold is too short, or the next pipe is. Oddly, the manifolds that were
    on the car (see othe picture) are about 6" longer (i.e. tuned for lower-rev
    torque) than the Quicksilver ones.

    So on the one hand I could use some insight into the exhaust system design
    history. Do you happen to know if (US versions aside) there were multiple
    exhaust manifold configurations?

    On the other hand, to deal with Quicksilver, I could use some pictures of
    original systems. Do you have any idea where I could find a picture from the
    bottom of an original exhaust system in place? I found on Ivan Ruiz's site a
    picture of a US automatic original system from the bottom, but that's no help.
    Also, if you know anyone who has successfully installed the Quicksilver system
    it would be very useful to be able to talk to them."
     
  6. 67alloy

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    #214 is now available. Highly desirable LHD, 5 speed, Euro spec car in Rosso Rubino with Mustard interior. In the U.S.

    Interested parties PM for details.
     
  7. f308jack

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    Marc,

    Not sure if this will help, but in my memory I have seen branches that connect to the mid-section straight after the 4->1 piece, and others that have a short length of straight pipe between the joint and the flange. I estimater some 6-8 inches.
    The advantage of the latter is that the flanges don't join exactly there where the clutch cylinder is situated, with the bulky clamp it is very crowded there with the shorter version.
    My guess is that the owner received 'short' headers and a mid-section that is made for 'long' headers.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  8. Nembo1777

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    Not sure who you are but Rob Lay the owner of this web forum won't like you sneaking in a commercial advertisement.

    I was hoping 214 had been bought by an American end user.

    MS
     
  9. Nembo1777

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    Hi Jack,

    Many thanks will pass this on:)

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  10. Mexico074

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    #5760 Mexico074, Apr 21, 2015
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    Hi Marc and the Owner of US1228...

    It just so happens my K (US1120) is on my lift right now so I went
    and got the following picture.. It is not the best, but might be of
    some use.. It is of the left side exhaust header, where it meets
    the exhaust pipe..

    I might be able to get a better picture in a day or two, if needed..

    Mike
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  11. 67alloy

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    I'm just an enthusiast and owner, having formerly passed twice on your own bronze car before Lance sold it to you. I have spoken to you about my history with your car.

    I don't own and am not selling 214 so I'm not advertising anything. Simply aware that it is available and I can discreetly pass on owner contact information to anyone interested.

    If that's offensive to the moderators or anyone else they can remove the post.
     
  12. f308jack

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    Hey Mike, as an aside, you don't have bungs in the header for gas-testing/carb tuning.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  13. Mexico074

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    Hi Jack...

    You are correct... Since my car is a US version it originally
    came with those dreaded thermal reactor type headers for
    emissions purposes.. Somewhere in its life they were replaced
    with what is on the car now.. I suspect what is on there now are European headers,
    and I don't think they came with those bungs, did they?

    Mike
     
  14. Mexico074

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    Hi again Jack...

    I should also add my car was once owned by Frank Mandarano, who
    owned MIE at one time.. Frank posts 3500GT info on Ferrarichat under
    the moniker of Portenos. I'm not sure if he had these headers put
    on the K or if the previous owner did..

    Maybe he'll respond and shed some light on this for me!

    Mike
     
  15. f308jack

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    Hi Mike,

    It's a good thing we discuss the headers, there appear to be more variations than we think.
    Mine are Euro, but do have the bungs, and also have the air-injection rail normally associated with the thermal reactor, but it never had the latter. An air-pump was fitted to many euro-cars without the reactor, just to tell authorities that "We're doing our bit for the environment"
    Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen a K that did not come without this pump from the factory, but I may be wrong.

    My headers are of the 'short' type, i.e. they lack the short piece of pipe that puts the flange behind the clutch-cylinder.

    Frank knows what he puts on his cars, no worries!

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  16. khamsin433

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    Hi Jack,

    My car chassis 433 had exactly the same set up as yourself. Air pump removed by previous owner, so I had leaking rails removed too. Some of those nuts/ bungs had snapped off due to grounding I assume so I had holes sealed up. Headers are originals, rest of system stainless I had fitted. Joints are a pain, wish I'd gone for something better as an option.

    Bal
     
  17. GLB

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    Thanks for the picture. That piece looks identical to the one in my '74, so we have a model. Will indicated he'd try to fit the scanning into his work at some point. Are the Khamsin pieces black also?
     
  18. f308jack

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    Hi Bal,

    Yes, the solution chosen is not the happiest, especially with the use of those extremely bulky clamps.
    However, the 'short' headers should make is possible to remove the clutch without taking the headers off?

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  19. f308jack

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    On the Khamsin they are chrome.
    The weak point is not the mechanism, but the hinge-point on the seat-bottom. The screws are designed wrong, head is too flat and the crack around the shank of the screw, the head breaks. Second weak point is the receptor of said screw, a flimsy affair that carries the whole load put on it by the back-rest. It breaks loose and becomes sloppy. To remedy this properly, the whole seat needs to come apart and the 'receptors' welded.

    I have found some replacement screws, the type that are used in wood, which have a somehwat more convex head and thus some more flesh around the shank. Just need to cut slots in them. Will report back on how this works.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  20. Nembo1777

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    Hello 67alloy!

    I remember you now how time flies!

    I only mentioned that because when I stated here a few weeks ago that I had AM120US1168 Rob Lay let me know I was not supposed to do that, virtually rapped my knuckles. He is supposed to develop new advertising options here and to get back to me.

    I hope 214 stays in the US and I really like its colors same as 1168 actually:)

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  21. khamsin433

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    I have same problem on my driver seat, one of the heads has popped off. Took me while to work out why the seat looked wonky from outside. Must have a look at extracting the thread to find a replacement.
    But right now just looking to get the car back Saturday after suspension rebuild over winter.


    Bal
     
  22. f308jack

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    Bal,

    Same here, one of them popped the head. I am sure many K's suffer the same problem.
    I am busy with it now and will post pics soon.

    Best,

    Jack.
     
  23. khamsin433

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    First drive in 8 months back from the garage, sublime.....

    Great to get the beast back, even the rain couldn't take my smile away....

    Bal
     
  24. Nembo1777

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    Happy for you Bal:)

    I can still remember you on the roads of Burgundy almost 3 years ago:)

    FYI to you and all "wrong hand drive" Khamsinistas:

    AM120409 is coming up for sale at the Coys auction of Ascot on May 16. Link is not up yet -Coys is a bit antiquated in how they do things- saw it in an ad in Classic & Sports Cars.

    That is the car which was restored in Wales by Tony B in time for KHAMSIN QUARANTA, a car which had been before that in very poor shape and which he really saved. I am not at all involved with the sale.

    Best regards,

    Marc
     
  25. khamsin433

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    Hi Marc,

    Yes I saw it too, though momentarily didn't note the registration. 409 was a car I nearly bought. I think Tony sold it to fund a Ghibli project.

    Ah those Burgundy memories... That was a fun weekend with some great people.

    Bal
     

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