The best view in the world?

OK OK I accept : you have driven it now !

 

Great view.

 

Lovely ; enjoy it in good health.

 

Its the ONLY view. Congrats and remember......miles of smiles in a TR!

 

The 12 in these cars is one of the most robust designs from Ferrari.
The engine is designed to rev.

The redline on my TR is 6800.
On a graph your horse power curve and torque curve cross at 5250 RPM.
It won't hurt it to take it to 6k once in a while to blow the carbon out.

 

"does anyone redline their TR's now" Are you joking? Five grand is where the fun starts. The M motor is designed to rev all day long and it will most assuredly do so. The rev limiter on the transplanted M motor in my testarossa is set at 7500 and while I try to shift a bit before that I do occasionally bounce off it. My biggest complaint is having to run a light throttle for the 20+ minutes it takes to warm the old girl up. After that I the M motor loves to be flogged. (If you are breaking in a new motor that's a different matter.) Cheers.

 

I think these pretty much sums up Ferrari engines........ "Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.""I build engines and attach wheels to them."

 

This is the very example of what is driving me crazy with this section for the last several months.......

it is all about value. What the car is worth.

Not only is this boring to me, it is extremely sad.

To add insult, I can't believe we are even talking about keeping the RPMs low. Its a Ferrari! This engine rocks. Taking it to redline is the very best thing about these cars. If you think 5K is good, 7K is much better. I'm sad you are missing out. I'm also sad that all the kids in the world are missing out on the glorious sound that you are choking with your limp right foot. Thanks for driving them to want a Prius.

 

tf308 thank you!!! It is a ferrari not a museum piece. Enzo wanted these things to be driven!!!!!! They are not so fragile. Take it to redline and enjoy it. And all these price increases are great but I bought mine before the increases and I want to enjoy it and not park it.

 

If you rev it and dump the clutch thats bad. Redline in in 1st probbaly not enough flywheel effect, its like reving in neutral thats bad.

2-5, no harm at all. In fact dont even look at the revs drive the power curve. On a BBI the redline is 7 but driving the power curve on feel has you shifting around 66-6700 shich is the actual power peak. I redline sometimes when holding a gear defore a bend or when a shift up comes a little later like passing or comming out of a bend.


If you are worried about harm to your engine and driveline its lugging that will do it. Lettin the car sit, building up rust in the bores kills htem. Not changing the oil regardless of low mileage once per year kills them. Not runnign the mtoor till fully warm and then parking kills them. These motors are designed to spin. Spin a 7k redline mtoor to 8 and it causes potential harm, stay at and below the redline in gear 2-5 its all good.

As to porche delaers. This relates to missed shifts which forcing the engine into over rev like going from 5 to 4 and getting second and relasing the clutch.

The worst ferrari to buy is one not driven by someone who can drive properly, They may look nice and run, but they run like crap. A car driven sympatehticaly towards its limits probbaly is in fine mechanical fettle, thats the one you wnat. Not a car wth played suspension, so so brakes and an engine clogged with deposits.

What will kill a ferrai motor is not warming it properly, like 7-10 mins at idle to get water temparature, fans coming on is a good sign youa re ready to move, then driving slowish say below 400 untill oil temp moves off the peg and into a reasonabe range, then slowly stretchign it out, then going for it a mile or two down the road. An italian tuneup ever heard the phrase. You dont have to beat on it but like jocky on horse you can cane it faster. Change oil to fresh before winter storage.

25 years on lots of preventative mainbtanance never had an issue with anuy thing breaking, if anythign its gettign fatser with age.

 

tim, alex and sean:

well said ! ! ! and I agree 100 %, only the 400 until the oil is warm I think you missed a 0? so 4000 rpm?

 

yes 4000 rpm.

I also skip 2nd gear till it engages nicely on warm gearbox oil, never force it. Also try and double clutch as much as possible.

The one interestign thing about BBs and I am guessing Trs is thta thye ahave a false reputation for slow notchy gearchages. Fact is if the gearbox is warm and you are shifting above 6k rpm they slot beautifully and fast, thats how thye are designed.

 

Unsolicited feedback? You asked if this was the best view in the world.....my response.....yes.

As for "your magazines".....I guess you can only comment on the sound it makes below 5K rpms. Thank god for Chris Harris and youtube, as it will be the only way a Prius driving teenager can see what the real magic is all about.

I do not apologize for my comments. When I read magazines as a kid, I dreamed about bouncing the tach needle off of the Ferrari redline. No better sound in the world. I am living the dream. You can too if you push a little harder.

 

I also skip the 2nd when cold, but never double clutch. that would make sense when the single gears have no synchrorings like older cars. but when the gears have synchrorings it is useless.

 

I also skip 2nd when cold. Car easily shifts from 1st to 3rd....the added torque makes it much smoother than my 308.

 

Great view indeed.

I regularly take my 512 TR past 5000 rpm, as the engine really comes on cam at 5.

That said, I don't take it a whole lot higher (almost never past 6), simply because the car really rockets over 5000 and the car is quickly going too fast for the road.

Take it past 5 once in a while ; as long as the engine is thoroughly warm and you're out of 1st gear, it will do no harm at all. (I'm trained as an automotive engineer).

 

Yes the 458 and 650s left me lukewarm.
Moderns are too amzing on street, so no real fun, they drive just like any car, and mostlya re too ehavy for track.

Never tried an aventador, but it seems the one modern that has thats ense of occasion.
Cayman GT4, make me one with the new Rs mtor and we have a deal.
The new vette z06 seems to have alot of the right ingrediets, if you dont mind tupperware.

This old flat 12 ferraris are apain in traffic, although trs way ebtetr at it than boxers. Either way theya re a lot of fun at all speeds in a wnay moderns just cant comprehend, yet at the same time way fatser than even the insane can go on street, all while demanding the driver engage. A sweetspot in car design for exotics.

 

Susch nice roads in france. I woudl thinmk there are parts of the autoroute where a tr can see the top of 4th even if only breifly.

I once drove the grimsel pass, seems you can drive a car there tot he max.

 

Its a good point, Darius, i think that if we were to put together a list, of what makes all of us love these cars so much, a sense of occassion, would almost certainly be at ,or near the top!
BR,
Jez