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930 Turbo Carrera

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  1. idart

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  2. pu911

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    It's amazing that someone would not take the time to install the correct seats in grey 930,
    stunning car.
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  3. pu911

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    They have car listed on ebay right now- looks like an attractive price for a nice 77, a little surprising as their cars are generally overpriced.

    Phil
     
  4. WPOZZZ

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    I keep looking for the Scotch brand label on that. lol
     
  5. simon930Berlin

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    138K for Steve's 3.0 is a steal! What happened there?
     
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    my bad, mixed up the links.
    very curious for August now..
     
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    Anyone happen to have extra parts for the rear window wiper mechanism? I have some, and just ordered what's available from Porsche, but I can't get my hands on the transmission through the deck lid pieces or the rod that connects to the wiper motor.

    The rear wiper was missing when I bought my car, and it really bugs me.
     
  10. pu911

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    Steve,

    I'd post a wanted ad on pelican and rennlist, good luck!

    Phil
     
  11. voitureltd935

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    No Prob Simon.The ones on mine are the original ones it came with ( as is the rest of the car ) in 1977. Missing can mean a few different reasons. But with this one it makes little difference as there is only one choice, it is what it is. Great color too.
     
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    The car was repainted in the past so perhaps the holes were filled by accident. This is such a cool color and even more so since it was a 930 special ordered by Steve McQueen. I'll bet PCNA wouldn't blink if anyone paid $100 for the COA for '76 chassis #408 so they can post for all to see.
     
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    There can't be a single person on here who doesn't kick themselves for not winning this car at auction the last time it was available. Then, it traded hands for what a ratty car sells for today, yet it belonged to Steve McQueen, and that shade of grey has to be the best to ever adorn a Porsche! Hindsight, of course, is always 20/20.
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  14. simon930Berlin

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    no doubt one of the coolest cars ever. In my book only to top by his Lusso.
     
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    Perhaps the owner Mike can weigh-in but I think there's a real opporutnity to do a much better job documenting the car than what was done in 2008.

    To my knowledge, from the 2008 auction: 1) No PCNA COA showing PTS; 2) No photo of the paint data plate; 3) No lineage showing when Steve McQueen bought and sold the car; 4) No description of how the car was fitted from the factory (sport seats, limitied slip, passenger mirror, sunroof, etc.); 5) No description of the tail light kill switch that Steve McQueen installed.

    Sotheby's even posted an image of the factory build sheet for Steve McQueen's 1970 Porsche 911S in slate gray. Doing this for 76 #408 would no doubt help the auction results as well.
     
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    This is from an article written on the car:

    Yet McQueen apparently wasn't yet done with Porsche after Le Mans. The introduction of the 1976 Porsche Turbo Carrera in the U.S. caused quite a stir, as it represented Porsche's first real supercar, a monster 911 with the then-impressive output of 234 horsepower at 5,500 rpm in U.S. trim, with torque rated at 246 pound-feet at 4,000 rpm. The actor immediately ordered one ($25,880) from Pete Smith at Bob Smith Porsche in Hollywood. He asked for three special options: a sunroof ($675), a limited-slip differential ($345) and Slate Gray paint ($250).

    When the Turbo Carrera arrived some months later, McQueen was in no great rush to pay for it and pick it up. Pete Smith put 100 miles on the car to break it in. Finally Smith and his wife Becky arrived in the Porsche 930 for a dinner with McQueen and Ali McGraw, McQueen's second wife. Seeing the car in the metal sealed the deal and McQueen finally took delivery of his third 911.

    The Turbo didn't stay stock for long. The first change was a switch on the dash to knock out the taillights and brake lights in case of hot pursuit by law enforcement personnel. Later the standard 15-by-7-inch front and 15-by-8-inch rear Fuchs wheels were replaced by 15-by-8-inch front and 15-by-9-inch rear Fuchs wheels.

    By 1978, McQueen's divorce from McGraw was in the cards. Barbara Minty, the model who became the actor's third wife, still remembers the Porsche Turbo as quite a handful when she rode at McQueen's side. In the midst of his domestic mayhem, McQueen happened to be talking to Pete Smith about the 3.3-liter version of the Turbo that had just been announced, and he offered to sell his Slate Gray Turbo back to Smith,

    For this Porsche 930, the McQueen years were over.
     
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    Found this photo of Karajan’s 1975 Turbo on the Porsche.com exclusive program site (link below). They also have a photo of a 1975 Turbo interior with a door panel with an unusual ribbed pattern.

    Porsche 1975 - Porsche AG

    I had thought the door panels on the 1975 Turbo that sold on Pelican in 2005 were not original but perhaps they were special order panels for 1975 Turbos? I wonder who ended up with the 1975 Turbo on Pelican for $20K and hopefully they didn't replace the door panels.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/142387268-post1376.html
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    Length and width changes for the Porsche Turbo (diagram shows a 3 liter Turbo with 3.3 liter Turbo text but 930's were the same length and width)
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    It’s sad to see a 3-liter Turbo this molested. It seems that the Porsche 930 Turbo may be one of the most (if not the most) molested classic sports cars. There are no doubt many neglected and abused 1970s Ferraris and Lamborghinis but were they ever molested to the degree of 930s? I'm not talking about exhaust or performance mods but major mods that transform the classic 930 shape.

    3-liter Turbo prices plummeted in the 1990s and many ended up as cheap project cars. The previous owner of my 1975 Turbo paid $13,700 in 1995 and even when you adjust for inflation, that’s only ~$22K in today’s dollars (see bill of sale that came with my car's paperwork below). In the 1990s, a $13K sale left plenty of cash for a replacement 3.3 liter engine, slant nose conversion, rear wing replacement, or interior mods. It’s no wonder there’s such a high attrition rate for 3-liter Turbos and why so few original cars are left today.
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    Folks are constantly complaining about the high prices of 930's these days but the good news is you can't buy a project and save it and come out ok financially.
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    Pon's Automobielhandel 1977 press release featuring a white Porsche Turbo. Hopefully Pon’s produced a 1975 version as well. My ’75 Turbo #0160 was the 4th Turbo Pon’s invoiced on May 10th, 1975.
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