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    Yes, optional on all variants of the RS, either steel brakes (red calipers) or PCCBs (yellow calipers).

    With some arm-twisting Porsche Ag would paint PCCB calipers other colors, so you have to visually check the discs.
     
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    Tony,

    My internal source at Porsche Ag responded thus to my inquiry about non-metallic blue colors:

    "Currently the blue tones (solid, non-metallic) are already approved for the 991 are:
    - Mexico Blue (Code 336)
    - Maritime Blue (Code 38B)
    - Dark Sea Blue (Code A5G)
    - Riviera Blue (Code 39E)
    - Voodoo Blue (Code Z12)
    - Olympic Blue (Code Z16)
    - Aquamarine (Code Z62)"

    That's all I have established. You can look up all these colors online, some of them are very historic Porsche Ag colors, such as Aquamarine which dates all the way back to the late 1950's as used on the first series 356.

    Bear in mind that the received wisdom is that PTS will not be available till the end of the year, and bear in mind too that it is better to go with already-approved colors!

    Hope that helps!
     
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    I do have an allocation "in the pipeline", and I am of the school of thought that I'll know I'm getting one when it is formalized! That said, I think this generation of RS is less of a departure from the GT3 (actually does not rev to 9,000 like the GT3 does), and its benefits are all to be found exclusively on the track, not on the road. Because I am not a track person, acquisition is looking a bit redundant. In past iterations (997 for instance) the difference between the GT3 and the RS could be felt immediately on the road. That said, we shall see, because I obviously have a weakness for RS cars!

    To answer your 2nd question, I absolutely adore my 991 GT3!
     
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    I encourage anyone who loves these cars to get this book.

    Peter Morgan's intro:

    "Hans Mezger joined Porsche in 1956 and within a few years was responsible for the design of both the early 1960s F1 engine and subsequently led the design of the six cylinder 911 engine. In 1965 he became head of the new race design office under the charismatic Ferdinand Piëch. Mezger led the development of all the iconic race prototypes of the 1960s, climaxing in the unforgettable 917 program. He was a principal contributor to all sixteen of Porsche’s victories in the famed Le Mans 24 Hours. When the McLaren-TAG F1 team came to Porsche for a turbo engine in the 1980s, he led the design and development that resulted in three consecutive F1 constructors’ titles. This personal account of a dedicated and loyal Porsche engineer will touch every enthusiast's heart and underline why the name of Porsche is so respected todaytobiography of Porsche’s most talented engineer. Hans Mezger joined Porsche in 1956 and within a few years was responsible for the design of both the early 1960s F1 engine and subsequently led the design of the six cylinder 911 engine. In 1965 he became head of the new race design office under the charismatic Ferdinand Piëch. Mezger led the development of all the iconic race prototypes of the 1960s, climaxing in the unforgettable 917 program. He was a principal contributor to all sixteen of Porsche’s victories in the famed Le Mans 24 Hours. When the McLaren-TAG F1 team came to Porsche for a turbo engine in the 1980s, he led the design and development that resulted in three consecutive F1 constructors’ titles. This rickly personal account of a dedicated and loyal Porsche engineer will touch every enthusiast's heart and underline why the name of Porsche is so respected today."
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    Elevenparts may possibly be still able to supply the badges, and a poster, both dedicated to his 80th birthday:

    https://www.elevenparts.com/viewer.php?id=987&img=pictures/987/DSC00188

    Porsche development chairman Wolfgang Dürheimer wrote:

    "Hans Mezger is one of the most important engineers in our company’s history. For four decades, our racing cars won with engines designed by Hans Mezger and made the Porsche name a synonym for sports performance around the world.”
    Hans Mezger was born on November 18, 1929 in Besigheim, Swabia. After graduating from high school and studying machine design, he started at Porsche in 1956, working on engine development. The first of a long series of racing engines designed by him was the 1.5 liter eight cylinder engine used in the Porsche 804 Formula 1 racing car, in which Dan Gurney won the French Grand Prix in 1962. Over the next decade, Hans Mezger’s work ranged from the design of the legendary six cylinder boxer engine for the Porsche 911 to the development of the legendary Porsche turbo engines used in both production and racing cars. One particular highpoint was the air-cooled twelve cylinder engine for the Porsche 917, which produced up to 1,200 horsepower in the 1973 CanAm version.
    After developing so many successful racing cars, such as the Porsche 935, 936 and 956/962 models, Hans Mezger dedicated himself in the early 1980s to one particular customer commission: he designed the “TAG-Turbo made by Porsche” for the British racing team McLaren – a Formula 1 engine that produced up to 1,000 horsepower from a capacity of just 1.5 liters. From 1984 to 1986, the engine produced at the Porsche development center in Weissach dominated the elite class of motorsport and consequently landed three Formula 1 world championship titles"
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    In more recent times, some media have noted the significance of the Mezger influence, for example in this testing piece in the USA:

    Winding Road | Driven: 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0

    "The GT3 RS 4.0 uses a different engine than more domesticated 911s. The GT3s use the so-called Mezger M97 engine, named for Hans Mezger, designer of many famous Porsche engines including the flat-12 in the 917 Le Mans car and the TAG P01 Turbo that won several F1 championships with McLaren. The M97 design traces its roots to the engine used in the 962 and GT1 racing cars"
     
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    One last thought before we return to our regular GT3 RS revie:

    The fact that Mezger established his engineering genius from an era in the 60s when it was all done by hand, and the fact that his work spanned 40+ years of automotive development, makes his accomplishments all the more remarkable.
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    Joe, thank you as always!
     
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    I know of at least one denied PTS color request...from a fairly well known collector too.
     
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    PTS denials are common.

    The thing to remember about PTS is that it is entirely at the discretion of the manufacturer, and the color can be denied or discontinued at any time. As such, its a bit of the lottery, and approval can be luck-of-the-draw. For these reasons, I also know prominent collectors who will never bother with PTS, they simply don't have the time to spend trying to get it to happen!
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    No affiliation, but, a source available here:

    Commemorative Weltmeister 80 Jahre Hans Mezger Decal
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