How many of you have your PIN code but not a complete set of fobs?

I am reposting this from the "Cloning my only fob" thread in hopes that someone may know a 'friendly' dealer who is willing to find get my pin.



I went to Ferrari of SF a few days ago; they are a factory owned store, not an independent dealer. "Impossible to get the pin regardless of ownership documentation. Give us $3K+ or pound sand. Thank you, and don't forget to do the belt service on schedule. Have a nice day."

 

Mark,
I have three fobs - one red and two black (you made one for me to complete the set but I can't remember which) and the original PIN which does work. Here's the issue: I really can only keep two in sync. The third sits in the safe. So while I think it's great to have three, it's hard to keep all three in sync. Not sure if that's helpful or not but I thought it's worth noting.

 

Is there an advantage to that? As in, is there a way to keep them sync'd without using them?

 

Okay. I'm in depending on cost. I'll send you a PM.

 

If anything, # of uses is typically twice the number of starts since most rearm the system when the car is parked (when out, not at home). It leads to the fobs being out of sync by a ever growing multiple depending on the number of stops while out driving.

I am glad to hear that you can add non-cloned fobs to existing systems now. One step closer to being in total control of the system.
Ken

 

I converted my full set of three fobs to Mark's new system tonight. He sent me three boards and I put them in my fobs and did the learning sequence. It works flawlessly. Now I can use all of the fobs interchangeably without having the codes catch up. It's super and makes owning three fobs much more practical.

I really appreciate Mark's contribution on this. He's a real asset to the rest of us.

 

I still need to do this ..... I currently have only one fob ......

 

Well you can request the Pin from Ferrari, or have Immofixer retrieve it.

M

 

From the previously referenced thread:

www.immofixer.com
www.immofixer.com/services.html
www.immofixer.com/questions.html
www.immofixer.com/videos.html

Their website lists their services, prices, frequently asked questions, videos etc... Appears to be the only company that can extract the PIN from the actual immobilizer in your car. You ship them your unit and/or fobs and they take it from there. You can use them for PIN extraction, additional fobs, etc... or you can pass the PIN information along to Gobble to use his fob services. (Seems to be a more accurate route than going to Ferrari where they *might* be able to get the PIN for you assuming the original unit is still in the car.)

Hopefully between Immofixer & Gobble most of the immobilizer/fobs issues can now be resolved (with a price of course).

(I have no affiliation or experience with either one, just simply trying to help compile the information for future reference)

-Benjamin




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Wait. So I would have to remove my immobilizer, ship to Australia,, deal with the hassle and the risk of its being lost, not to mention all of that downtime, AND pay almost $800????

What's the advantage again?

 

Immofixer provides the only current method to retrieve a unknown theft code. The advantage is $700 for their service vs. $?,000+ for replacement theft ECUs with a known code. Gobble's non-clone service will not work unless you know the code. With the code, you can add 3 new fobs for around $600 but without it, your options are cloned fobs, Immofixer or theft ECU disarming (mentioned above).

Their shipping is insured, not sure what more you are looking for. Anytime your car goes in for service, you have to accept hassle, risk and downtime. Kind of goes with the territory.

 

Ah, so it's what you do if you DON'T have the code or fobs. That's an important distinction.

So let me see if I have this straight:

Situation 1) You have your code but not all the fobs: you call Gobble and you then get all the fobs and no rolling code issues.

Situation 2) You don't know the code and don't have fobs: You call Immofixer and send them the immobilizer. I guess you wouldn't be using the car anyway as you have no fobs to use the car regardless.

That all makes sense as I couldn't figure out why you would want do the Immofixer route when Gobble's is so much easier. But I guess if you don't have the code, then you don't have a choice. So they don't compete with each other; it's more of which one solves the problem at hand for each user.

Now it's all clear.

 

Looking at the website

Option C is $699 (plus shipping to Australia )

Re option B:
Their price including 2 new fobs is and return shipping is shown as $1196 , (I expect this is assuming you have 1 fob to send with the immobilizer), so no need to buy a set of 3 new fobs. That's similar or less than option B, but you are also getting the correct pin, something that Ferrari don't guarantee.

I agree Option D is the least preferred option.
Not only is it the most expensive, ( 2K or more, ) but the bigger consideration in a 360 etc is that the immobilizer is mated to one of the engine ecu's.
If fitting a new immobilizer you have to hope the other engine ecu has not been previously mated to the immobilizer, I'm told this can happen if sometime in the past a tech has swapped them left to right to diagnose a problem. Then you need to buy a pair of engine ECU's as well. Big $$$$.

 

I sweated bullets sending my fob to Gobble, I can't imagine waiting to get my immobilizer to and from Tasmania with a side trip to TSA. If someone in the US had the capability, it 'might' be a different story.

 

Option E. Bypass the alarm system completely. Has anyone figured out how to do that?

I remember some owners awhile back that were interested in this option.

I like some of the newer cars but this could be one headache I don't know if I would want to deal with.

 

Interesting thread in the 456/550/575 forum regarding bypassing the immobilizer in a 456M. It was also completed in a F355. There are pictures on pages 3 & 4. Perhaps this will add another option for owners.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/456-550-575-sponsored-bradan/487889-immobilizer-has-been-bypassed.html

-Benjamin