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930 Turbo Carrera

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  1. onboost

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    Nice photos Rich!
    I visited Vasek's place just after his death in the late 90's and again in early 2000's. His staff was always inviting and willing to show you around. There were always vintage Porsches and BMWs displayed on the floor along with the current model year offerings.

    The highlight for me was being escorted to the back warehouse where they're were vintage race cars and motorcycles literally stacked on shelves upon the walls. Crates with 935, RSR, and 917 engines and other spares. The place was magical!
    Vasek was the man!
     
  2. rdwinelover

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    In Road & Track January 1976 article on the Porsche Turbo Carrera it states: "Besides the standard features listed in the data panel, the Turbo also has tinted glass all around".

    I have looked at a lot of pictures of these cars and most of the time, there is no tinted glass. Was the tint often removed does anyone know or is this simply not correct above? I am thinking it isn't correct above but not certain, hence why I am asking.
     
  3. 930

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    The amount of tint can be a very relative term. The tint found on 930's was quite light in comparison to some of the darker shades seen on cars today. Rest assured it was there (based on delivery area). Dependent on lighting, some exterior colors seen to enhance its effect.
     
  4. idart

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    Very sharp Agfa Porsche factory werkfoto of Viper Green 1975 Turbo S-CD 1337. This is one of the photos that were included in the Porsche factory press release kits for the Oct 1974 Paris Salon. It’s interesting that the photo is marked Porsche KG vs. Porsche AG as the transition had occurred before 1975 but apparently the press department did not change out their stamps.

    I’ve seen very little in print or on the web about S-CD 1337 including verification of the chassis number or its current whereabouts. The press photo shows the car with frosted anodized 7/8 x 15 Fuchs, Pirelli CN36 tires and without the valve stem supports. If this same 1975 Turbo appeared at the Paris Salon, Porsche must have swapped out the wheels and tires since that car had polished Fuchs and Dunlops.
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  5. jgcferrari

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    Would love to find that Turbo
     
  6. idart

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  7. pu911

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    I bought a 72 S with 40K miles back then for $8k- that is one of the cars I owned that I wish I never sold.
    Phil
     
  8. hyenahf

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    cool pic in interim guise

    i reckon they did a pretty cleaver job of integrating the standard narrow G body bumpers, valance and bellows. they just added the larger rubber lip to net back into the larger fender flares on the production 930s. additional side pieces were needed for the rears i suppose.

    so the first G wide body car was IROC then 73 turbo prototype, 3.0 RS, 3.0 RSR, then the mass production flared 930, SCRS, turbolook in that order?

    i always though these "m491" type vehicle weren't built of the mfi 2.7 since the tubs have different pick-up points for the suspension with anti dive and anti squat that wasnt prevalent in the 2.7 rs


    ps there has been some dispute here on fchat with the "wooden" 73 turbo frankfurt concept 930. I know of the person who was in the studio and worked on that car while prepping it for the show circuits. the next time i run into him i will see if i can confirm if it was wooden or not.

    cheers
     
  9. idart

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  10. Shady Speedway

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    Any chance you can declare the vin? I am very interested in RHD 3lt cars.
     
  11. cal007

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    Dear Idart,
    is there any reason why you would assume that the "1337" went to the motorshow.
    The reason is, that the "1337" seems to be a "driver" as the photo reveals some spots of dirt and even "wear".

    It would have been very unusual to use such a car as a motorshow model from my point of view. At least extensive refurbishing would have been necessary...also for body and interior.

    cal
     
  12. idart

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    Cal - I think there’s a good possibility they are the same car. S-CD 1337 must have been completed in Sep 1974 and its viper green metallic. It was equipped with perforated brake discs and so was the Porsche Turbo at the Paris Salon. S-CD 1337 also had other pre-production features such as a unique air filter housing and the engine lid light was in a position that was not in the production cars. That being said, we still don’t know the chassis number, if it survives today or if in fact it was the Paris show car.
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  13. hyenahf

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    i went for a drive with this outlaw last weekend. he just pick up another 3.0 930 from you neck of the woods down under. got there before my old roommate (in pic) can get his hands on it. its a 75 one of 17 RHD , he says its currently red but he's thinking it will be returning back to met brown one day.


    the original turbo graphics penned by martin here at a local gathering



    this silver/blk one maybe for sale soon also after a test fit for the prototype wheels
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  14. mike5876

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    that car with the plaid is a clone of mine!
     
  15. Shlobeck

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    Geez I love that Russet/ Mackenzie dress interior. Is this a So-cal car? More pics please.
     
  16. hyenahf

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  17. idart

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    Very nice...since it's a 1977, the leather is light red or lobster but always difficult to tell from photos.
     
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  19. MonoSpecchio

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    Yeah...I found an original silver on black interior '77 930 with factory limited slip and sport seats...pretty much the holy grail of 930s to me. I would have listed it here, but I think I've reached my maximum cars ads for the year, and I was hoping to sell to someone local to SoCal.
     
  20. rdwinelover

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    #4071 rdwinelover, Jun 6, 2015
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    Here comes the junk to market...

    1976 Porsche 911 (930) Turbo

    1976 Porsche 930 Turbo 51,178 miles on chassis. I have owned the car about 30 years and has been sitting under a patio for the last 20+ years. It is a project but similar but the same year cars are selling between 165,000-250,000 so here is your project. The car has no rust, and in the pictures the car is covered in dirt. The car does have a salvage title due to theft, but it has never been crashed and the body is straight. The original engine is missing, but I do have the transmission and most original parts. I also have the original beige interior, and a black interior as well with sport seats. The car is one of the last few cars brought into the U.S. of the 520 total brought to the U.S. that year with the
    VIN# 930 680 0505
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  21. rdwinelover

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    #4072 rdwinelover, Jun 7, 2015
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    Jack Robbins was a salesman at Charlie Eckhard's Porsche and VW dealership since 1968 where he loved selling cars, especially Porsche's. The dealership was on 14th and Broadway in downtown Oklahoma City and Jack after years of hard work, bought one of 2 dealerships from Eckhard and went on to call it Jack Robbins Porsche / Audi in late 1976.

    In late 1975, when still with Eckhard, Jack was bullish on the upcoming 1976 Porsche 930 Turbo Carrera, especially compared to his competition. With 200+ Porsche dealerships in the nation, each dealer was being allocated only 1 Porsche 930 and Jack managed to purchase 5 of those allocations from his competitor Porsche dealerships by giving them $1,000 each for their allocations in advance of the cars arrival. Eckhard, wasn't happy but had enough confidence in Jack that he allowed the expensive purchases. Jack had no problem selling those 5 cars and sadly, 2 of the 5 were totaled beyond repair within a few months after the sale from inexperienced driving.

    For Jack's own allocation, he chose to order car #9306800197 in the spirit of the nation as 1976 was going to be the United States bicentennial. In the 12th month of 1975, #197 rolled off the assembly line in Stuttgart in Red, White and Blue (Guards red, interior to sample white seats & blue carpet). The car also came with the Black Turbo Graphic down the side (Turbo Graphic - Designation Black on the COA).

    Jack was very involved with PCA and had several parties at his home where #197 was on display. It was a big hit with friends and fellow Porsche enthusiasts. The only road trip Jack made with #197 was from Oklahoma City to his families home in Kittredge, Colorado (just west of Denver) in the summer of 1976. His son Chris road with him and they hit 155 miles per hour on the stretch of highway between Dalhart and Dumas in the Texas panhandle. Chris said that they made the 11 hour journey in just 8.5 hours! Chris said the wheel and his father was shaking but I can only imagine the smile he had at that top speed. Jack never raced the car nor auto-crossed it but he didn't baby it either and drove it like it was meant to be driven, like he stole it.

    Fortunately, I am now the owner and guardian of #197, having purchased it last week. Through some web research, I was able to find Jack Robbins son Chris and have had a few emails as well as a phone call about his fathers background, history and stories of the car. Sadly Jack passed some years ago but the car and his spirit live on...

    Below is a picture of Jack Robbins as a young man when he was serving our nation. Also his car #197 with Jack in the drivers seat, taken in 1976 outside the Charcoal oven drive-in restaurant on NW highway in Oklahoma City. The warranty book with the 1st two owners information and how I tracked down Jack's son, Chris. The back-end of #197 today and finally, a newpaper clipping from November 1976 when his father secured the dealership as his own.

    Below is a web article and how I found Jack's son Chris after searching the internet for "Robbins Porsche 930". It's fitting that the article is about cars and fathers day. In the article Chris, Jack's son says: "My other favorite was his (dad's) ’76 Turbo Carrera 930, with around 225-hp. In my first experience with turbo power, we rocketed up to 155 mph (on 185/70- and 215/60VR15 Pirelli CN36s – pretty scary, huh?)."

    A/b: Father?s Day Tribute Special - VWVortex

    Lucky me the article had Chris's contact email... The Porsche Gods were smiling down and knowing the history, I cherish this car so much more...

    Drive it like you stole it..
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  22. Shady Speedway

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    Great story RD. Sometimes the cars history adds a dimension to the car that money can't buy.

    I have an old collection of push bikes. Some of them have greater value in their history than tangible value.
     
  23. rynoshark

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    Agreed. There was a nice article on provenance and stories in this months edition of the Road Scholars Magazine:

    History Matters. But So Does Proof! - 1971 911T Targa - Road Scholars
     
  24. idart

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    Great story...would love to see photos of the interior's white seats and blue carpet. Sounds close to the Martini editions.
     

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