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New Clutch Slipping.....oil damn it!

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  1. Bell Bloke

    Bell Bloke Formula 3

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    #1 Bell Bloke, Jun 20, 2015
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    At the beginning of last year I did Katos clutch, no problem. To date it's only done a few thousand miles.
    OK so just the last few weeks I've been giving a lot of high speed rides out in Kato with some drifting thrown in. All went well until last weekend when I really went for it with 3 sets of people 12 in total.
    On returning to base and doing my checks I realised my oil pressure sender had somehow gone loose and was leaking oil onto the clutch inspection door, from there it found its way onto the clutch plate.....bummer!
    On taking Kato out last night I found I couldn't even overtake and was forced to drive on 1/3 power the whole night. This morning I removed the inspection cover and found a thin film of oil on everything including the flywheel.
    The Solution:
    Well it was either remove the clutch and clean it or get creative.....we got creative ha ha.
    Emily and I decided to wash the clutch in situ by rotating the engine to the various points where we could see the flywheel and clutch plate together, then Emily pressed the clutch to open the gap over the contact area.
    Then with a powerful jet wash and oil busting detergent, I power washed it through the access hole, rotating the engine to the 3 points where the clutch plate was most visible.
    Next up, we ran the engine and hot water lanced the rotating clutch and flywheel assembly whilst Emily pumped the clutch pedal. Pumping the pedal opens the gap between the flywheel and the plate enabling it to be cleaned. The result is as you can see in the pictures, one hell of a clean clutch assembly.

    Well did it work?
    YES HOORAY!!

    We took Kato out for some fairly hard testing and the clutch slip has totally gone, we've been out all day and all's well. On returning I removed the inspection cover and felt the flywheel, it's squeeky clean, completely dry and oil free.

    So there you go sometimes an odd solution can really save a lot of time and I'm very happy with this fix.
    As for the offending oil sender, a 1/4 turn and it's tight again and NOT leaking now.
    Anyway just thought I'd fill you Folks in on my latest, all the best Bell
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  2. FCnew

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    ROTFLMAO

    Only Bell can pull one off like this.

    LOL

    Good for you.
     
  3. Bell Bloke

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    Ha ha cheers Jonathan, it looks nice and clean now doesn't it (see pic), my bell housing was like a washing machine with the engine running and all that washing detergent.....I was tempted to put my socks and pants in for a cycle or two.
    Anyway, just sods law about the sender leaking and getting the clutch like that. All's well now though, sometimes odd things happen, that's machines for you.

    PS. Kato now smells like a laundrette!
     
  4. yelcab

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    creative, I give you that.
     
  5. sidtx

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    Quit showing us pictures of your gorgeous engine bay. You're going to give us an inferiority complex!

    Just kidding - I really enjoy reading your threads, and I've learned a lot.

    Also - in case you are wondering...."Dadgummit" is an old southern semi-explitive that is appropriate for use around the "fairer" gender.


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  6. soucorp

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    Very creative Bell, my oil sender unit was abit loose as well and I had a similar problem with oil spilling on the clutch inspection opening but mine has a rubber cover that stopped the oil from seeping thru to the clutch so my clutch was fine. I've never done a clutch job but I would imagine if you power wash the inside assembly with detergent, doesn't it also wash away the grease/lube in bearings and other moving parts not to mention rusting all of the metal bits and pieces? How do you remove the water at the bottom of the bell housing that didn't seep out?

    Cheers
     
  7. PV Dirk

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    I love a happy ending (tear in eye)

    Good thinking!
     
  8. Bell Bloke

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    Hi Soucorp, the bell housing is open at the bottom and so the water goes right through.
    The clutch release bearing is sealed as is the pinion support bearing, the starter motor is high up in the bell housing and may have got wet but water shouldn't hurt it really.
    After the 'treatment' we drove the car for 2 hours, ample time for everything to thouroughly dry out. I also did a lot of coasting with foot on clutch to allow contact area to dry out but trust me with that amount of heat everything would have dried before the car got out of our village.

    Very good points though and obvioulsy something we thought about in great detail before doing this,
    the alternative however was to remove and clean the clutch and that was something I was not really wanting to do unless I had to.
     
  9. soucorp

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    Thanks Bell for taking the time to teach us what we don't know, I learn something new in each of your post! Tow-cow to you !

    Cheers
     
  10. hank sound

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    Happy Father's Day, Mikey :)

    And he does all that, without ever scratching the face of his wristwatch ! :):)

    Cheers,

    Hank
     
  11. PAP 348

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    Lol. +1 :p
     
  12. PAP 348

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    Happy Fathers Day to you too Hank! Lot's of love from Down Under mate. :)
     
  13. Bell Bloke

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    Hey Guys doesn't everybody wash their clutch from time to time? ;-)
    I believe it's in the revised Ferrari service schedule... along with the one that says the belts should be done every 3 years, ha ha.
     
  14. hank sound

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    Hey Pap - - Happy Father's Day to you too, mate - -

    Now I really need to see pictures of the kids !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cheers,

    Hank
     
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  16. FCnew

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    Aww... they are adorable.
     
  17. Bell Bloke

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    Ah we are so cosey on this site, see it's not all see about cars ;-)
     
  18. soucorp

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    SOOOOOOO CUTE !!! You must be a proud PaP ! :)

    Cheers
     
  19. hank sound

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    Nah mate :):) - by comparison, it's everything else - - that's "off topic".

    They're beautiful.

    Be well,

    Hank
     
  20. PAP 348

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    Thanks boys, I absolutely love them to death and we are all very proud of them. :)

    ;)

    Hehe, cheers Hank. Much appreciated my friend. :)
     

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