That's pretty low if you think a 308 GTB steel sold for 170.000 EURO + fees...
Artcurial is a very expensive auction to buy from, here's a copy of the fees they charge buyers: Classic Cars • From 1 to 900 000 €: 16% + current VAT. • Over 900 000 €: 12% + current VAT. This means you need to add nearly 20% to these quoted hammer prices, to arrive at the figure the winning bidder is actually paying for the car. This might be why the hammer price doesn't look as bullish as you might expect them to be in today's market..
My price opinion works i guess somwhat different, this qv fetched a 40% up from the Anni,both cars carburated, IOW had the anni hammered at lov 400$ the qv would hammer at 600$ .this, to me seems not on the low side, Iin the US a fi Anni (Andrews)and qv fi(Arizona)both cars in similar cond where only a few bucks apart. Also after reading Harrys info regarding the fee s , both these cars did well,cons their merly used car status. Also the old carb versus fi is changing in favor of the latter,
nope http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/lamborghinichat-com-sponsored-cats-exotics/491337-lamborghinis-not-auction.html
ellagirl I'm not sure I follow. I think we are saying the same thing. I thought the results were fine and in line with what I wld expect. the difference between the qv and anny seems reasonable to me. so if a 3k km pristine anny is worth 450k usd it makes sense that one with 35k kms is worth 280k usd. wrt to carbed or FI I have no particular basis to form an opinion. I own a FI but wld opt for a carbed if in fact they sound better and make more hp
Thanks tt forcefed, you are right,the spread is still 200k if the anni was 400,i like% in my nmbr game, othervise if the qv hammered at 200k , the Anni would be free(0) Ha ,all good. All in all as you said factor inn 16% ,this cars did wery vell being avg drivers or used cars,also not a good color combo on the qv imo, revesed ,it would be far more desirable,
i just redid the math - 230 euros plus 16% fees convert to USD I get 298K USD for an anny with 35,000 KMS. the bubble is definitely bursting - I cant believe it didn't go for 2M USD. wtf. I want my money back
Color Combo Was nice on qv...White countach always sold well. Miles are Not very high imo. I think the prices were Not so high as many aspected. Countach And Lamborghini are flat Prices keep going up on ferraris i think
If you do some basic calculations the QV DD sold for 459,360 Euro or $514,000. The 16% auction fee and 20% VAT needs to be added in. The result is in line with the market IMO. Geno https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/lamborghini/countach/1988/308997
Than add 20% VAT and you get $361,000. About right for a Anni DD in Europe. Here it would be worth another $50-$75K due to it's rarity.
Did not catch that... moving the entertaining comments into a new thread. I had to go to the kitchen to re-fill my popcorn
Sorry if this is not the right thread for this question. Currently this 2007 LP640 is listed on eBay: Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Coupe 2 Door | eBay I found the photos of the damage to the car in this thread, post #33: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/lamborghinichat-com-sponsored-cats-exotics/335990-lambos-copart-2.html With this specific form of damage, what sorts of things would be key to watch out for? I sent a message to the seller when he had the car listed previously a month ago, but he didn't respond to questions about wiring, whether it was a new engine, etc. I realize this is not a car to be purchased for appreciation potential, but it seems to be marked down ~$30-$40k off current market for a manual transmission. Fair for a nice driver? Thanks for the help! -Bruce
THIS VEHICLES TITLE STATES "SALVAGE", FEEL FREE TO RUN THE VIN AND YOU MAY SEE THAT THIS VEHICLE WAS NEVER INVOLVED IN ANY ACCIDENT/COLLISION! CAR RUNS AND DRIVES LIKE A DREAM! ALSO DRIVES STRAIGHT AND SMOOTH WITH NO FLAWS IN THE DRIVE TRAIN WHATSOEVER! this should make u run far far away from this car. Seller is a known mickey mouse "restorer" of wrecked Murcies.
Yes, do a quick search of the user id. Generally a wreck rebuild is worth, at best, wholesale of what a non wrecked car is.
Thank you both for your input. He has 100% positive feedback on eBay, but perhaps he has never sold a whole car on that account...maybe just small ticket items. It's so frustrating trying to find a decent manual LP640...hard not to "set the sights" a bit lower just to find one! Thanks again! -Bruce
I feel your pain. Late model 3 pedal Lamborghinis are not the easy find that one might assume. I search off and on as well, and it has not been the easy home run that I thought, especially if you want a certain color combo. In regards to buying a salvage car, save your sanity and keep looking. I have a friend that does rebuilds. He does mainly Chevy pickups & I have been to the places that he gets them. They move ALL of the vehicles with a big forklift. Dented floorboards are normal, along with bent suspension parts that occur just in the salvage lot. Cars are left open to the elements. Many sit for a prolonged period before being sold. That is one reason why the mileage is usually lower than another comparable car. A Walmart parking lot is a better place for an exotic. Get a nicer, lesser car or keep looking. Even my friend that has done 100's of wreck rebuilds (no kidding) says that he would never buy one that was rebuilt by someone else. My 2 cents.
Ouch! Great advice, EarlyCat -- Thanks! I've been trying to open my mind up to the possibility of the base model, since most of them are manual, but there are several reasons why the LP640 is just a better car (or can be, depending upon options)...not to mention at least a few years younger. I don't want to shell out the cash for a car, only to be bankrupted by repairs later. I'll keep looking. I'm noticing that, in general, the Murcis I see for sale are not moving quickly, and the same ones (even the pristine ones) that I saw last year are still available. I suppose, in some respects, that's good news, because it means a buyer could have some time to make a decision, and the market isn't going crazy like with Diablos and earlier models... -Bruce
Although an earlier model, this is an interesting car...no affiliation...e-mailed with the seller, there are some cosmetic modifications in the interior that I don't care for...oh and he said the theater lighting is not permanent. 2002 Lamborghini Murcielago 6.2L 2dr Coupe for sale in Sarasota, FL - Vehicle Details - 23237 - RITEDRIVE? Price has been moving south pretty rapidly, too...looks like an opportunity for a strong 3 pedal driver... I would also suggest checking Autotrader.ca some nice cars pop up there once in a while and with the exchange rate strong, might be able to find a deal.
Thanks for the link, and the tip to check Autotrader.ca. I've been using Autoblog, and it seems like most U.S. cars find their way onto that site. There are certainly some nice base models out there, and the one you linked is one of them (theatre lighting notwithstanding!). There is a red 2005 out there with 2,000 miles that's caught my eye, too. Other than the horsepower difference, I believe the LP640 has an improved curb-lift motor, better interior cabin space (although I can't confirm exactly where dimensions were altered), and the optional ceramic brakes. One of the main reasons I like the Murci so much is I believe it's the best-sounding engine Lambo ever made, but I don't know if the 6.2L has the same low-RPM grumble and high-RPM scream that the 6.5L does. As EarlyCat said, you wouldn't think that finding the right, adult-driven one would be such a chore! -Bruce
