So Speciale is best of both worlds?
I can't help but love the looks of the 488 since it basically has the same shape and style as my 458. So it's looks really don't separate it from "past" offerings i.e. 458. What does separate it is the latest turbo technology. There are some styling cues on the 458 that have been lost on the 488 in my opinion but that's just a matter of personal taste. I will definitely reserve final judgement after driving one to see if it's a worthy replacement.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mysea6/19181972385/sizes/k/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/lauramarcosupercars/19183633945/sizes/k/ giallo.pictures not mine
Yep, I'm with you. With the 488 Ferrari wants to address a wider audience as before; that means in terms of the GTB clearly faster and stronger as the direct predecessor Italia (as always power and performance is THE new business generator number 1 in the sports car arena) but in the same time easier to drive and more pleasant for everyday use. We should not forget: the average Italia customer is over sixty years old and drives the car almost exclusively in everyday life and not on the track. We can be sure, on the other side of the scale the direct Speciale successor will be much more extreme and race oriented than the Speciale was in comparison to the Italia. A hyper 488 with a significant performance distance (and this is much more relevant than the comparison to the Speciale) to the main competitor McLaren 675 LT. There are already tests running with the 3.9 tt engine, the performance figures are more than spectacular! Pity for McLaren and Lambo.
Ehh...the base 458 is not louder than the Scud. People in Europe get black flagged sometimes with the stock Scud exhaust. Looks are subjective of course. Transmission is faster, but less engrossing - also heavier...as is the car. Front end of the 458 is much better.
The picture taken low and from the rear emphasizes how different the lower side of the 488 is from the 458 (particularly the exterior sill and the sculpting around it). I did not fully realize the changes until seeing this picture. Thanks for posting.
There is no way to enhance the sound of turbocharged cars. Put it this way, if they cannot make the F1 cars sound good, forget about any other car. Just like Pagani couldn't make the Huayra sounds even close to Zonda. You think he didn't try? You can make it much louder, but it just won't even come close to NA's high screaming. I think for some people who don't really care about screaming sound, should go for 488 because it's definitely a very beautiful car and good performance. AND IT HAS THE BEST SOUND COMPARED TO OTHER BRANDS WITH TURBO, LIKE MCLAREN OR PORSCHE, EVEN PAGANI. But for those who like screaming old time F1 sound, then go for V12. Btw, I'm trying my luck on the F12 GTO.
Where do you think Must Sound Good comes on the list of priorities for F1? I'll give you a clue... there's only one item on the list: Must Go Fast.
Still not liking the car but the one thing that is no doubt getting better is the standard wheel (I saw that one coming ). You all praised the double spoke one which I find boring, now in this grey example with the yellow body, it looks awesome.
That's not really true man. If that were the case, then all the fuel savings and hybrid power units would not be used. They would just stick with the V10s. In addition, the cars are slower now in addition to sounding poor. Now that we have the worst sounding F1 engines ever, there is universal displeasure with it. Only the engineers don't care. The spectacle of F1 has been diminished and you have the actual CEO saying they are an entertainment company first...so the sound must entertain. Venture to the F1 section if you dare ; ) EDIT - ok I see your point...the engineers developed the PU without considering sound. I agree...now they are paying for it in decreased viewership.
Haha - nice! Which still sounded awesome too coincidentally! ; ) I just want them to be insane....there are a bunch of different ways to skin the cat.
For us lazy ppl who don't want to invest an additional click [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA2GsIIdpis[/ame] "I thought the 458 chassis was one of the best I've ever driven, but I think this is better. It takes the 458 1 notch higher in almost every dynamic aspect."
There's one thing I can say for sure, my 911 Turbo S with GMG Race exhaust doesn't sound anything like that. I couldn't be more excited to get my new 488GTB.
Well engineers develop the engines per the rules. I doubt they put them in a sound chamber to sample the engine noise and make it nice. So not sure how you can say that...
But, for instance "If that were the case, then all the fuel savings and hybrid power units would not be used. They would just stick with the V10s." The reason they don't just do as you say to achieve their goals is because the rules do not allow.
I think you need to read my whole post again man. If performance was all that mattered, they would have never gone to the hybrid PUs. If sound wasn't important, then everyone wouldn't be complaining about the new PUs - which you are correct in stating are maximized for performance and not entertainment. Engineers designed the PUs within the new rules for max performance yes, but they missed the fact that the fans (and drivers, and everyone pretty much) would be upset with the sound. Clearly performance is not all that matters since Bernie will tell you F1 is about entertainment. Current F1 cars are substantially slower than F1 cars from 10 years ago. So again, it is not all about performance. This is one of the many contradictions and issues with F1 today.
The problem with F1 is that all the teams push so close to the edge of what's possible within the rules that they're all operating within the same small envelop of performance and, so, races are decided on the first corner and from there it's a parade to the finish line with all the contenders being, technologically, on par with each other. Add to that that the cars end up being too fast for the race track. So, every year they mix up the rules to try to encourage overtaking which, in the main, they do by structuring the rules to roll back the speed gains of the previous seasons. Using F1 as a guide to anything in the real world is pointless because the whole thing is a construct of whatever rules happen to be in force that season.
