Countach, the ultimate supercar | Page 865 | FerrariChat

Countach, the ultimate supercar

Discussion in 'LamborghiniChat.com' started by joe sackey, Aug 21, 2007.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,645
    Location:
    London U.K.
    Villa d'este 2015 ?
     
  2. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,525
    Location:
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    Correct.
     
  3. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,645
    Location:
    London U.K.
    Luci del Bosco [lights of the forest] was a standard Lamborghini colour. Somehow this looks a bit different but if this is original paint perhaps this is just because colours look different in various lights/conditions
     
  4. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,525
    Location:
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    Yes, Ive seen several images of this car taken over that weekend and every single one looks very different as is often the case with metallic colors - always consider the light source & conditions.

    I couldn't even tell you if this car is LDB or not, all I know is that certain people have lauded it as one of the most beautiful Lamborghinis they have ever seen, that's why I asked opinions of the color.
     
  5. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    Ah... Ty. The one painted at Gary's was changed from a different color I can't remember which. I recall the car was going or came from NY.
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2015
  6. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    Yes better to use WB rather than length and the longest focal lens image. I seem to recall the LP500 is much smaller than the standard LP400 which should make the wheels appear bigger. I don't recall what the overall length is , I'd be surprised is they were the same since the car is much lower. WB on both lp500 and lp400 should be at 2450

    Looking forward to your test mule research...
     
  7. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,645
    Location:
    London U.K.
    The ex Tonino P250 in Luci del Bosco looks darker here...Yellow Mule is next in line...also note the small number plate on drivers side previously discussed elsewhere...
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  8. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  9. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,525
    Location:
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    What's your source for that?
     
  10. Chaos

    Chaos Formula 3

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    Messages:
    2,346
    Location:
    Cardiff. UK
    Full Name:
    Nick.
    earlier in the thread the car was referred to as marron metalizzato (basically metallic brown) but is that an actual factory colour or a literal translation ?

    does anyone know how many metallic browns the factory offered in that period ?
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2015
  11. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,525
    Location:
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    I'm not sure but there was always a variation possible.

    I do know that they were still using Luci Del Bosco 2-463-550 as recently as 1982 (please don't judge the hue by this indoor artificially-lighted image)
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  12. johnhoughtaling

    johnhoughtaling Formula 3

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2002
    Messages:
    2,113
    Location:
    New Orleans
    Full Name:
    John William H.
    Normally I'd say Brown countach yuck. But this brown with gold wheels is very period and chic
     
  13. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,525
    Location:
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    My notes indicate that the LP500 was basically the same size as the LP400.

    Here are some (approximate) stats culled probably from various in-period publications:

    LP500
    Length 157 ins
    Width 75 ins
    Wheelbase 96 ins
    Height 42ins

    LP400
    Length 161 ins (with front bumper)
    Width 77 ins
    Wheelbase 95 ins
    Height 42 ins

    I welcome other views.
     
  14. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    here are the numbers released by bertone for auto style in 1972 for the LP500.

    4010mm L
    1870mm W
    1030mm H
    2450mm WB

    ...and the numbers from the factory 74 LP400 release specification sheet

    4140mm L
    1890mm W
    1070mm H
    2450mm WB


    the original concept shows approximately 5 inches shorter and nearly two inches lower than one of the lowest production cars ever built in the LP400. at 40.5 inches, its literally GT40 racecar height but with streetable ground clearance.

    A LP400 S2 stop by last weekend, i swear it looked like a 4x4 in comparisons to a low body car! so sad that the LP500 no longer exist.
     
  15. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    May 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,525
    Location:
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    So, the LP500 is not much smaller than the LP400, its about the same, which is what I always thought, even visually.
     
  16. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    yes ivor, despite what has been said here, krodachrome like your eyes often lies.

    same car, same paint but appearing different color ... when you have been trained for to manually paint color shift swatches for months at a time you will understand :)
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  17. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    well your not looking close enough :)
     
  18. dantm

    dantm Formula 3

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2003
    Messages:
    1,103
    Location:
    YYZ, BOS, SFO
    Full Name:
    Dan B.
    Can anybody please post a few shots of front trunks of Countach especially LP400S and 5000S cars?
     
  19. mt_jt

    mt_jt Formula Junior

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    602
    Location:
    Australia
    Not to derail but I thought the LP400 so-called "series 2" cars were low body also?
     
  20. GraemeS

    GraemeS Karting

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2005
    Messages:
    166
    Location:
    Auckland New Zealand
    Full Name:
    Graeme Stebbing
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  21. Jota 5084

    Jota 5084 Formula 3

    Joined:
    May 18, 2006
    Messages:
    1,922
    Location:
    Sweden
    Full Name:
    Eric Andersson
    True, hyenahf must have meant S3?
     
  22. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    I'm not sure since I'm no countach have expert. Some folks say the last low body's were the lp400s that had non bravo 5 hole wheels made by campy or oz with jeager gauges and raid type steering wheel. I think they all had the smaller cc motor.

    these same components were also shared the taller body cars later on in 81 or 82ish with some sort of crossover. For certian by late 82 all lp500/5000 with the larger motor were tall cars. I'm sure joe can answer this along with the serial numbers.

    I don't believe the factory ever called them S1, S2, S3, DD's or whatever. This is Internet era nomenclature. So the car I saw is a s2 or s3? I forget, but I knew it wasn't a low body Most people didn't know for decades lowbodys had faster raked windshield and altered body panels. They just assumed it was the ride height or the slightly bigger front tires. The car last weekend I think it had the very cool P7F's (reinforcement) rubber on it.
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  23. mt_jt

    mt_jt Formula Junior

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    602
    Location:
    Australia
    What do you mean by "faster raked windshield"? The whole lowbody vs highbody (a term that makes me laugh but it's all relative I guess) argument was played out earlier in this thread. From what I can recall the windscreen in particular was mentioned and it was established that every model from the LP400 through to the 25th had the same windscreen.
    After all that debate are you now suggesting perhaps that the actual angle was more acute on the earlier models?
    Or perhaps you mean the door side windows?
     
  24. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,603
    Yes that's what I'm suggesting. I forgot the angle but I believe the same windshield was used throughout but it was pick upright a degree or two with the high bodies. It has been documented on print some 30 years ago when the change was add.

    You can't really adjust the windshield angle without altering the a-pillar. Now if the a-pillar section is the same then the door 3/4 glass may be affected. Why on earth would you change all the side windows if you weren't going to change the pillars with it?


    I haven't been following this debat here on Fchat too closely. What was the consensus of the low bodies vs later cars? I might need a laugh too. :).

    Regards
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2015
  25. CK7684

    CK7684 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2011
    Messages:
    1,000
    Location:
    MN
    Full Name:
    Jason
    Just depends on your definition of "about" ;)

    Didn't Bob Wallace mention something about the car getting larger in the production version?
     

Share This Page