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  1. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    So even on a road course, the top three - Logano, Kyle B. and Harvick - were three drivers which have been near the front at most of the oval races. Different track, same result!

    I still think they need to add a third road course somewhere here in the south. This is where NASCAR was born (with moonshine runners operating on the road), and the only two such races are in New York and California?

    Unfortunately the most suitable course would seem to be Road Atlanta, but I'm not sure its safety standards are adequate, and I'm not sure they could handle the crowds. (Though the announced crowd at the Petit Le Mans has been as high as 85,000). And they do run a class for "historic" stock cars (mainly Thunderbirds and Luminas) at The Mitty in April.
     
  2. Face76

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    Well, maybe not 100 yards from the finish but many of the races I have seen seem to revolve around fuel consumption.
     
  3. BartonWorkman

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    Too many competing tracks in the south. There is Barber in Alabama which is a perfectly
    acceptable circuit but in Alabama, close to Talledegger, Road Atlanta (as mentioned) but
    that's a stone's throw from Atlanta Motor Speedway, COTA in Austin but that would
    rankle Texas Motor Speedway.

    ISC's market saturation, and the fact that NASCAR regularly visits these tracks twixt
    per year could be their undoing as they've openly stated that they'd like to be on more
    road courses. The big question is, which ones?

    They could buy Miller out in Utah (unless it's going to be tilled under to make room
    for warehouses or whatever) but in order to make a road course work, it's got to be
    in a market where they've got no presence already, think Alaska and Hawaii maybe?

    BHW
     
  4. GuyIncognito

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    RIP Buddy Baker.
     
  5. Vintage Racer

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    Nascar now owns Road Atlanta.

    The problem may be with the very connected owner of AMS down in south Atlanta. I'm not so sure he will allow it (and his contract may say so).

    Nonetheless, and with no doubt from me, Nascar road racing is great racing.

    Mid-Ohio (a road racing track very near the lay-out of Road Atlanta) is this weekend. Stay tuned.
     
  6. GuyIncognito

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    Busch/Nationwide/Xfinity ran Road Atlanta in the 80s, and K&N East ran their a few years ago. put on some good shows too...not sure what the contract with Bruton says about AMS. I doubt NASCAR would handicap themselves like that.

    Road America is my pic for the Cup cars, that would be a stupid good show. they'll need to pave the gravel traps first though ;)
     
  7. BartonWorkman

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    Read somewhere last week that the ISC is in line to purchase Laguna Seca. Not sure
    how valid is it but here again, it's within a stones throw of Sonoma, so the risk of more
    market saturation.

    Depends on how many tracks want to get torn up by those 4,200lb bricks chewing up their
    asphalt.

    BHW
     
  8. GuyIncognito

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    technically they're not buying Laguna Seca, it's a rights agreement to operate the track (the track sits inside a county park).

    Laguna Seca to Sonoma is ~150 miles, and there's about 9 million people living between the two...I wouldn't be too concerned with market saturation ;)
     
  9. Vintage Racer

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    I agree. I remember watching the old Nationwide series race at Road America when Carl Edwards won the race.

    I've raced the BRIC at Road America and the Zippo at Watkins Glen several times. It was fun.
     
  10. BartonWorkman

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    I say let 'em run a race at every track in the friggin country and watch it like the
    train wreck that it is.

    BHW
     
  11. Vintage Racer

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    I've been on tracks that I would never go back to:
    Barber Motorsports Track (Alan Wilson is silly).
    Autobahn (south of Chicago--see above).
    Palm Beach International Raceway (south FL).
    Lime Rock Park.
    Atlanta Motor Speedway (see above).
     
  12. ferraripete

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    you are correct. road America would be the correct road course for the nascar folks. it is big, long and wide enough. I suspect road Atlanta would be too narrow and too short for a road course show...and I know Watkins is the short form but it has to be. the boot would create all manner of disaster for the big taxis.
     
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  14. Turbopanzer

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    You mean that BIG LONG Straightaway????? Come now.......lets see who gets a pant load trying that one as they brake for the corner!!
     
  15. OhioMark

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    Nice Nascar race from Mid- Ohio yesterday. The leader Tagliani gets bump and run on the final corner of the last lap and all is well in Nascrap land because one of our' s won! What a joke this series has become!
     
  16. GuyIncognito

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    that was a BS move by Regan, and would have been punished by any sanctioning body except NASCAR.

    I get that "rubbin's rain'" but that was just punting someone out of the way.
     
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    Tag had the pole , the car, and the skills. Reagan, in so many words said I had to wreck him to win like it was a badass racing move. The announcers acted like it was proper race move.

    What a pile of crap.
     
  18. Isobel

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    Agreed, junk move, a disgrace, Smith wanting credit for not spinning him. He should have received a 20 second penalty. ;)
     
  19. Turbopanzer

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    Managed racing series at their best. Pick one, pick em all. Welcome to racing's future.
     
  20. ferraripete

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    this is actually exactly the swill nascar is selling. they really relish in it when an open wheeler comes over and get's "shown the ropes" the nascars greats....joke!!!!
     
  21. tervuren

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    Tag can't complain it, he's got a LOAD of the same moves on others in past races FYI.
     
  22. tervuren

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    Here's how an F1 driver does it. Not even for the last lap for final position either.(For whatever reason, the hit from Alex that sparked this I can't find).

    https://youtu.be/nnfDQzIvlzA

    Tagliani turns into a complete moron behind the wheel of a NASCAR, he has no points to worry about, doesn't care who he wrecks.

    https://youtu.be/HiI2TwkjNBI

    I have no symapthy for him, he's just like whatever young Wallace(steven?) driver that only finishes well when he can wreck half the field in front of him on restarts.
     
  23. GuyIncognito

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    I'm no Tags fan, but you have to admit that Regan's move at Mid-O was amateur hour. that's not racing IMO.
     
  24. srephwed

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    Nascar has become the machine you have at your bed that sounds like rain on a tin roof to help you sleep. They strive for parody and have done it. Welcome to the worlds most boring racing. A lot of talk has gone around about Tony Stewart and why in the world would he race a sprint car on Saturday night before a Sunday Nascar event. Well it is because he loves to race. Sprint cars run normally a 25 yes 25 lap main event. I suppose that is why they call them sprint cars. No tire changes, no fuel, no pit stops just an action packed 25 laps. What happened to Tony was very unfortunate. I can not believe the a man that loved the sport like he did would intend to kill a fellow competitor. Point fingers where you like but it truly was an accident. My point is after this long drawn out dissertation is that Sprint cars actually have a very thin rule book. Check it out sometime. Maybe less rules could lead to better racing. Maybe!
     
  25. tervuren

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    Full Season driver to Full Season driver, I agree. Tags has braked 5-6 cars late and taken out whole packs so many times, he has a list of very deserved pay back comeing to him that may never end.
     

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