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Miura, the original supercar

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  1. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    In almost 30 years of messing around with Miuras, I have never seen anyone successfully duplicate the exact material for the purposes of refurbishment. I'm not saying it isn't available on some upholsterer's dusty top shelf somewhere, I'm just saying Ive never seen it accurately replicated, not yet anyway.

    Rarissima.
     
  2. cnpapa24

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    What a shame.
     
  3. Andrew R.

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    Geno, congrats on the purchase of the SV!!!
     
  4. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #13979 Olivier NAMECHE, Aug 23, 2015
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    correct : either the old one with nice patina or new one with correct original paint scheme

    here is the original interior of the european "Luci del Bosco" SV I inspected in June
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  5. joe sackey

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    Again, non-original steering wheel, correct unit below with 2 holes per spoke.
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  6. joe sackey

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  7. joe sackey

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  8. Olivier NAMECHE

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    absolutely, the current owner was surprised when he bought it that it has not the original steeringwheel.

    He found that one on ebay, better than nothing...
     
  9. BBBBBBB

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  10. geno berns

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    Andrew thank you.

     
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    #13986 geno berns, Aug 23, 2015
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    Thank you Joe. Getting acquainted with the beautiful beast the last few days. I did understand your and Oliver's points, I simply disagreed and said in my previous post as it relates to liveries (not original interiors):

    "I did not see a lot of value tied to just that factor so that was my point to Oliver's point. As far as original livery, the topic has been discussed many of times. I personally am in the camp that does not instill more value in the car's original colors versus a color change as long as it's a period color being applied. With these cars trading for the stupid money as they are the wrong color is the least of the issues. For 2% of the cost of the car one can go back to any "correct" color of their choosing".

    When you have 250 GTO's and other classics worth 10's of millions running around with non-original liveries, over restored Ralph Louren cars and other high dollar cars that are far from what they looked like when born, the values don't seem to suffer what so ever. So when Oliver stated his friend stopped bidding or your clients decided not to pursue it due to the incorrect color of the interior it makes no sense. It's a matter of fact, but I don't see cars in non-original liveries selling for less money, ever. It's a total myth. I've paid attention to that and have personally sold car's with color changes that brought top dollar. Especially when to make an adjustment is a tiny cost to the new owner if they so chose to take their new car to it's original livery. I spoke to Jeff and found out that my car had a plain black leather interior with out those cool looking and difficult to find cloth inserts. Therefore it would not take a ton of money nor effort to black-out that tan interior if one wanted too. That's my point.

    Geno

     
  12. joe sackey

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    Got it, enjoy.
     
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  14. roytoy2003

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    I agree with Geno 100%.

    For the most part, all my buyers are more concerned with the service co9ndtion of the car, they want to drive them. I imagine their are a few that want it the exact way it left...but they are ONLY original ONCE...and a car like that, very very rare, as the S that sold at Mecum just goes in a Museum, never to see the day light on a street again.
     
  15. joe sackey

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    Good eye Eric, in fact, as with may others, this car suffered rear-end trauma, caused by the driver forgetting to deploy the hood-locking lever and driving off. The rear hood tips open and the rear panel is destroyed. I know of at least a handful of cars that have suffered this demise, and the rear panel is almost always incorrectly repaired. The image you have posted shows the car from when the badges were askew (since corrected), but as with a few other SVs, the rear lights are not sitting in the recess they should be.
     
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    #13991 BBBBBBB, Aug 24, 2015
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    is this one of the reasons to discontinue Miura style bonnets on Countach ?

    besides technical progress (?) as stated

    Forty Acres of Yellow: A brief history of the Lamborghini chassis

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  17. joe sackey

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    I think the Countach was simply a fresh design.

    But it was a giant leap forward.
     
  18. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #13994 bb4635, Aug 24, 2015
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    Buying power of Belgium Guys appears to be quite high these days - and apparently, they appreciate the vintage Lamborghini cars !

    Here are a few pictures of #3739 at the Factory, when displayed in their showroom, just after the restoration was completed.
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  20. Olivier NAMECHE

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    looking in my records yesterday eve, I believe it is the one that was for sale for quite a long time in CH at "Plans les ouates"
     
  21. raymondQV

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    Correct, it was before silver and located near Chatel St.Denis, then Lambo Geneva which begun the restore, later it went to italy where the restoration was fninished.
    Back to Geneva it was for sale for ~600-650k chf.
     
  22. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #13997 Olivier NAMECHE, Aug 25, 2015
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    here is in silver...
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  23. raymondQV

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    That was at Tornard near Chatel St. Denis?
     
  24. NürScud

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    Different rear fenders?
     
  25. Andrewo

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    Both cars passed through the hands of the same collector so he probably moved the plate from the white one to the orange one when he sold it.
     

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