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Great to see the twins !!! It note that the 77 seats are slightly different. BTW, do you know where I can get the driver and passenger thick carpets like the original ones ? I can't locate any...
If yellow is your color.... I'm into RoW cars - and broke - but the color is fantastic. I could do a first inspection if anyone is interested. No affiliation ? Porsche Carrera Turbo 3.0 - Porsche - Marktplaats.nl Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hi there, I just found these - a bit older - informations about the ice green metallic 1975 911 turbo. It's my car and it is in Germmany now as listed on the 3.0 liter registry. Does anyone know something more about this car? I found out that it has been a car which Porsche uses for their own belongings, which means I found dealer no. is 100 on the Porsche works chassis card. I like to find out if it was a family car, the colours (ice green metallic/th finest goat dark green leather plus green wool tartan seats) are exactly which some family members used on there cars in the seventies, or was it a press/test car? As far as I found out Porsche started production at no. 9305700011 and so no. ...00018 is the 8th car which Porsche produced in very early 1975. I would be very pleased if somebody has further going details - no matter how tiny they are - about my car! Thanks for your help. I'm looking forward to any comments! Kind regards Jan-Peter
Can anyone make a list or supply links or details of all 3.0 Turbo Carreras on the market presently, either privately or publicly, I have a client seriously looking. Thanks!
What happened to your statement that you were on the sidelines waiting for these early cars to come in on pricing Joe? Your budget of a 150k or less and that these cars are over valued at present. The advice to your customers not to pay these prices? Seems counter intuitive now that a total restored example just sold for 220k in need of 100k. My advice to everyone reading is that these cars true current values are 300-400k for a complete example and no one should sell for a penny less. The prototype car was bull-***** sales pitch and sold for 400k. The other in need of restore will be finished at 300k+. Not hard to do the math. Don't anyone give your cars away! We are only in the second inning. Even 1977's are just shy of 200k. With so few cars and recent results, there are a lot of new eye balls on these stunning machines.
As a matter-of-fact, since my posting this morning, Ive been offered 4 cars in total so far, 2 of which are actually under $150k. Ive also been approached by a dealer who has a 1975 for admittedly much more money. My advice to my customers serves them well, and I am known to be both conservative and candid. I say what I say, and there are clients reading this who will vouch for that. That said, if I have a client who insists on buying, I'll find them the best example I can, regardless of price, so long as they are happy paying it. That's precisely why I'm looking! The 3.0 930 market is a bit behind the overall market, but the overall classic car market is leveling off without a doubt: Monterey auctions see $393 million in sales -- the first decline since 2009 | Autoweek I believe that the 3.0 930 market will level off also. I also believe there is a not inconsiderable amount of 'hot air' as related to auction prices, with real-world trading numbers considerably less than auction numbers, so I wouldn't bet the farm on the latter. As we all know, if prices drop, we can buy more cars, so nobody should worry, it only means more opportunities for everyone! So, to answer your question squarely, nothing has happened with my prior proclamation, whilst I may have adjusted my overall estimation upwards a bit for the 1975 cars, and the 1976 cars somewhat, I still think a 1977 is a $150k car. That's my professional opinion, sorry if you don't agree, but we should all be able to appreciate and enjoy these cars without our respective differences about value causing unnecessary hostility. Ultimately, the market is the market, and that's what decides the numbers, not my opinion, or yours. If I didn't want to highlight these cars and champion their cause, including their desirability and this their values, I would never have started this thread. In fact, a not inconsiderable effort has been made by myself (to the benefit of many!) to ensure that these cars were no longer seen as $30k old cars, and one would think that counts for something. A while back, I made this post about values: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143938581-post3956.html A 930 owner agreed with me! http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143938721-post3957.html Another 930 owner was at least supportive: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143938761-post3958.html You made this post which made it clear that you want to see values increase http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143939258-post3966.html that's okay, but why the need for the hostility at the end of your post? I responded: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143939280-post3967.html This thread was started by me to be a historical & technical resource for the 3.0 930, to separate it from the other 930s in a specific and defined way. I think it has accomplished that by my initial input and Rich's dedicated continuance (plus that of all who contribute meaningfully). Lets keep the thread both informative & respectful.
Please don't attack Joe! His research and understanding of these cars is unrivaled. I have just finished reading 'the miura bible' from cover to cover, his ability to capture the essence of a car whilst including acurate facts make his books a joy to read. We should be encouraging him to write the definitive book on the 3.0 litre turbo. Which incidentally will only help values!
Hope this help I have, a very low miles 76 turbo and a dealer offer to buy for 375k,and I told him the car is not for sale. Don't give your cars away.
As people who do have a passion for cars, we should be happy if these cars stay at affordable prices. I had the opportunity to purchase my 76 Turbo from a great guy at a fair price, and I would like others to benefit from similar opportunities in the future. The important thing is to enjoy our passion and drive these cars. That's all what matters in my opinion. Of course, there is nothing evil in making money our of a car, and there is no reason to be candid about that, but I still think they are only pieces of metal on wheels ! In conclusion: do not let money take over pleasure !
Everyone likes making money, but the challenge when it's a toy is that it rather changes the enjoyment. We are finding that we treat the 930 differently now,no longer willing to use it for weekends away or track days, it's become a car we take for a nice little drive and put back in the garage, which is ok, but not what we bought it for. With our garage space limited, we're looking for a car we will enjoy using more often.
That's the funny thing about an opinion, everyone is entitled to have one, but it's not possible that a single man can talk down classic Porsche prices. It's the market that decides, and for our cars the market is strong and growing. I may not be allowed to say so, but I do: I enjoy my cars more when prices go up, because it means I'm not the only one who enjoys driving and owning one of these fantastic machines. For trackdays the 3.0 Turbo has never been my weapon of choice... Erik
I've only had the 930 on track once, and while I will agree it wouldn't be my first choice, it does demand far more driver involvement and skill than many modern sports cars, which to my mind is the whole point.
Agreed, that's exactly what I said in my lengthy post above: "That's my professional opinion, sorry if you don't agree, but we should all be able to appreciate and enjoy these cars without our respective differences about value causing unnecessary hostility. Ultimately, the market is the market, and that's what decides the numbers, not my opinion, or yours". Consequently, your opinion is just that, and the market will take care of where we are headed. Its clear that some people are here to talk the market up and not much more. That's fine, but they shouldn't complain when others sound a voice of unbiased reason as a counterpoint. As you say, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I'm certainly entitled to my professional one. Over the years, judging by my track record, it seems to have served me fairly well.
77 on Ebay Porsche 930 | eBay Porsche 930 | eBay 76 on Hemmings 1976 Porsche 930 Turbo Carrera for sale #1750440 | Hemmings Motor News
Guys if a 76 is a 350.000$ car, can anyone give me a good reason while this car has not been sold long ago? 1976 Porsche 930 3.0l Turbo Carrera for sale #1746414 | Hemmings Motor News
