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Stains on intake plenum and other engine parts Got a fix??

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  1. phrogs

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    #1 phrogs, Sep 1, 2015
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    It seems the previous owner used auto car washes so hard water stains or the soap has etched or stained the plenum and the upper plastic parts that's what makes the most sense to me anyway.

    Spraying the soap and water on the car when it was hot as hell and it stains the plastic.

    I also have stains all over the place.

    The plenums are a little harder to repair I can't just throw paint on them I just feel it will fail down the road.

    From what I see looking at the plenum they are just molded in black not painted black and then the stripes are painted silver. I am not totally sure what they are made of anyone know for sure?

    If its in the workshop manual or the owners manual I have not scrubbed every page of those books.

    I am kinda at a stand still trying to rectify this.


    The flash from the camera makes it look worse than the eye can see it.


    I have tried groits spray on car wash, chemical guys back to black spray and 303 aerospace and No dice.

    I have mothers back to black but I have doubts it will work. Also going to try my clay bar but also have doubts it will do anything.

    jp


    For some reason I can not load photos at the moment so Check this link

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144070089-post1255.html
     
  2. INTMD8

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    Not sure, they don't really look clean to me. Have you tried any degreaser like simple green or 409 and a soft/medium brush?
     
  3. ncjetskier

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    Use Groits Engine dressing spray (you may have to order it over the internet). It will make the spots disappear until you clean it again. Over time, it may help "lift" the stains. It will make it look MUCH better and has a satin shine to it. It does not collect dirt - good stuff, as I use it on my 360.
     
  4. phrogs

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    #4 phrogs, Sep 1, 2015
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    Nah I'm looking for a perminate fix, What you recomended is the same thing as the chemical guys back to black.


    I will probably have to find someone with good originals that wants to paint them and trade them
    for these. Im going to try some other things before inget to crazy but its not looking good at the moment.
     
  5. John_K_348

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    Mother's Back to Black and their deep trim cleaner may help. In all, you need to remove the stained and oxidized layers of plastic on top and get back to the even pigment underneath. Maybe try wet sanding with 1000 grit and then rubbing compound? Or maybe the blue-green shower scrubbies safe for fiberglass and enamel? Either way, you need a fine abrasive (deep trim clean with wire brush) and a polish and restorer treatment like back to black and the plastic dressings. 348's are wrinkle painted and I wonder about changing my color - no sanding. Also thinking or chrome plastic intake hoses for more growl, heat reflection (minimal), and bling. ;)
     
  6. GTO Joe

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    Like John K has suggested, wet sanding but I would start with something milder like 2500 or 2000. Another item that does a good job is 0000 steel wool. That may sound harsh but it works on mildly rusted chrome and does not scratch. Both of these approaches followed by a plastic polish mite bring them back. After you get to this point any of the products already mentioned should seal them going forward. Whatever you do, just try a very small area to see how it goes. Good luck.
     
  7. phrogs

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    Thats the problem they have been cleaned its all stained

    As far as sanding them not sure about removing material from molded plastic.

    I have some 3000 grit I may try.
     
  8. John_K_348

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    Yeah, pick a far corner and try a bit. This is how the headlight restore kits work.
     
  9. ///Mike

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    For the plastic, try Novus plastic polish (Novus 3 for heavy deposits/scratches, Novus 2 to finish up).

    Then look at the various semi-permanent trim coatings to seal the plastic and bring it back to a new look. Haven't used it yet, but I'm intending to try CarPro DLux on my 348's faded interior air intake in the front hood: CarPro Cquartz Dlux - In Stock, Tested & Reviewed - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum On sale: http://www.detailedimage.com/CarPro-M53/DLUX-Plastic-and-Wheel-Coating-P940/30-ml-S1/

    For aluminum you're probably looking at media or vapor blasting.
     
  10. John_K_348

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    Yes milder is better. Once you get in to an even finish, the stains should be gone and the pigment returned to an even color. The dressings will seal and make this pop. Plastic polish may be even better. Use it on the Spider top window.
     
  11. phrogs

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    Yeah i was thinking about a plastic polish
     

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