Thanks for the reply, and I've sent you a pm with more details. For anyone else that may be able to help, I am looking for the assembly in the photo. I have a wiper bearing / transmission from a '77 911 (without the rest of the hardware), but I'm not sure it is the right fit. On Pelican, the part number (911 628 915 00) comes up as for '76 -'77 930s only. I have everything else, from the joint rod down to the motor and bracket, and I have the rear wiper arm, this is my only stumbling block. Can some explain whether the bushing (18) mounts above the deck, or within the decklid? I'm beginning to believe that it is a spacer that allows the rear wiper to mount quite high off of the deck lid, is this correct? Wish there was another 3.0 930 in the area I could compare mine with. If anyone has pictures, I'd appreciate it. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I agree with this also. I take $163,825 average value, factor in the fact that these reports are always behind-the-curve, plus the continuing market trajectory = $150,000 is a fair average number for a 1977. I'm not saying we will find what we want at that number, but its a sensible number. The fact remains that sellers, buyers & dealers alike are all better off with with realistic assessments. The fact that the rate of increases has slowed is widely-reported Why Monterey collector-car auction sales were down -- and what it says about the market | Autoweek and as we all know every market change brings new opportunities. Whatever the case, the cars are way up in value from when this thread was started.
The haggerty values seem wacky... see the other thread on this. No way a 1988 930 condition 3 is now a $200,000 car. Someone hit the wrong key when typing these numbers in. Conversely, if someone wants to buy a 1988 930 for $200,000... I can help you out (not looking to sell...but...). So can all the other folks who have their cars listed sub-$100k and didn't sell... Bo
Yes I have two pals with 1986 911 turbos (one is a RUF BTR) that will be selling soon. And they noted today that their Hagerty valuation exceeds my 1979 930 valuation... That seems a bit backwards ~ but there it is. Right off the presses. #1 1986 $399k, #2 $315k. https://www.hagerty.ca/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vbe=117537 How do you like that? I like the Hagerty valuation but whoa those are some expensive 1986 911 turbos.
The problem is there are an aweful lot of these 930's for sale. If we assume most are #3's... are we really saying the AVERAGE 930 is now worth $150,000+ That may pose a supply/demand issue as there are an aweful lot of 930's listed for $70-80k that haven't sold. Most owners I chat with would immediately sell their #3 car for $200k to the first person who offered. Heck, most would sell for $100,000. Even a #4 crap car is $124,000+ per haggerty... I seriously think its a typo. The curves for an 1987 and a 1976 are now roughly the same...
I think that Haggerty chart for '86 cars is overly optimistic. There is no evidence of cars bringing that kind of money.
My personal view... Only the top 1% of cars have a chance at these prices... Original , as new condition less than 6k miles for example. In the $200s does feel more reasonable in this climate though , but lets watch and see. Some serious German collector could change our minds. It is worth recognizing that these cars have a bigger iconic status over in UK and Germany. Maybe in 10 years we will laugh at these posts. 10 years ago a 289 AC Cobra was 200k and the Dino was just a Fiat! Sure beats ETFs and Mutual funds for excitement. I am a holder of my trailer queen (or reference car as i call it).
I'm insuring at my observed market rate for my cars. Whatever I can buy an identical replacement at. No reason to over pay Hagerty.
Probably a stupid question: the Hagerty valuation tool does not show the 1975 Turbo. Do you know the reason for that ?
Good question I was thinking the same. Does anyone have an opinion on 75 turbo value as average for a 3 - 2 condition vehicle? One was listed on ebay recently totally restored for 200.000 USD and didn't receive a single bid, any answers to that? Porsche 930 Turbo | eBay
I would guess 75 values close to 76. 75 first model year ROW while 76 first model year US. Make adjustments for special colors....
Hello, from the 9305700186 the dash is vinyl, but was covered with leather. But the base is a full stand alone vinyl dashboard. The standard list of the 1975 brochure states: genuine leather interior. I suppose this could include the dashboard as well. cal
Hagerty.com us a US site and it only deals with cars that were sold in new US - notable exception is the 73 RS, may be others. There is a Hagerty uk site that also list valuations Phil
This is a good question- can't speak to that specific car but in general ebay used to be a good place to get exposure for a car 76, 77 used to do pretty well on ebay. It seems that the slumping euro has killed ebay as a decent place to advertise a car. I currently have a 77 listed and just not much happening bid wise. Phil
I have not found a single insurance company in the U.S. that has a listing for the 1975 Turbo. Even those that carry the grey market years '80-85 dont know the 1975s exists. Additionally, the NADA book does not list it, so here in Colorado, they used the 1975 911S for registration value $150K in 2009. Cal I enlarged your photo and it looks like the dash pad on 75 #0186 has been recovered as it is a different shade than the speaker grill. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/143474665-post2911.html It seems odd to me that no one on the planet can match the grain and sheen of original leather on an Porsche dash pad. As I mentioned, I think the verdict is still out on whether all 1975 Turbo dash pads were leather. For black interiors, perhaps Porsche used a vinyl dash pad as it perfectly matches black leather. For color interiors such as 75 #0242, they would have used leather since red vinyl would not match the leather. Unfortunately, there are very few 1975 Turbos that still have their original dash pads for comparison. If we can find an original example, perhaps we can learn how Porsche fitted the leather to the top of the pad. Did they use a metal sheet wrapped in leather and cutout the speaker grill opening and fasten to the top? Or did they extend the leather through the speaker grill opening and use a specially produced smaller sized grill than the vinyl pads to allow the extra space for the leather? Image Unavailable, Please Login
It seems odd to me that they did not post any detailed photos in the eBay auction. If a car has just been restored, don't you want to show off the details? In addition, take photos of the interior/dash, engine #, trans #, chassis plate in the trunk, etc. I just don't get it unless there's a reason not to post detailed photos.
I don't know anything about 75's but later 930's could be special ordered with a vinyl covered dash in lieu of leather- I just sold a 79 930 that had a brown vinyl dash. I had never seen one before. Phil
76 euro homologations should bring a decent premium compared to later 76 euro turbos right? Would I be right when only considering Euro turboes as homologations cars, no such thing as a 76 US homologation turbo no? Deducted the 11 first cars in the euro vins for each year 75 and 76, the last homolgations EURO turbo would be 9306700136 from my understanding, but is there any evidence about this? ( I know it has been discussed here before without evidence ) Thanks a lot But regardless of lack of detailed photos, not bringing a single bid at 200.000USD seams just crazy or is that just me? In essen earlier this year prices on these cars started at 400.000USD
