930 Turbo Carrera

Porsche only homologated the 950/50 engine in FIA Nr. 645: 1975 - 6750021-6750297 (277 engines) and 1976 - 6760021-6760157 (137 engines): 277 + 137 = 414 engines fitted by the end of October 1975 - +10 margin for the 400 homologation number for Group 4. It would have been difficult to homologate U.S. emission controls (thermal reactors, etc.) for Group 4.

Again, who bids a car without detailed photos? Did anyone request detailed photos from the seller they can share?

 

Thomas, I was able to post copy of FIA Nr. 645. Here you go...
View attachment Porsche Turbo - FIA 645.pdf

 

That is possible. I will recheck a few other photos. The grill was vinyl for sure.

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No sensible should bid on these cars without checking personally. I would not overestimate the availability of detailed photos.

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It works both ways. I always insist on the buyers personal inspection even from overseas buyers. Sorry to those who have gotten P O ed. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I'm way too old and been in business far too long to know why I feel this way. Just recently a buyer I refused to sell to without one ( said he was too busy to come in person ! ), bought a similar to my 930 from a friend of mine without a personal inspection, asked for a partial refund saying a shop he took it to told him it was not as represented to him. Believe me I looked the car over carefully myself and felt he had sold it way to cheap to begin with. Not all buyers, sellers, or the inspection shops they rely on are golden or see things from the same perspective.

 

I notice my dash is sewn between the 2 parts.
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On the march 1975 manual I also notice the seam on the dash
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Larger photo of the dash now
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One of the many, many things I love about the 3.0 Turbo is that it was originally conceived as a homologation special for Group 4 and Group 5 racing. My garage handily has images of those race cars, and looking at this unmolested 934 clearly shows the lineage from 3.0 930 to 934.

1976 Porsche 934 | Car Build Index.

 

That car is totally bada$$, love it.
Phil

 

The ask on this car was $385K months back and the restoration left a lot to be redone.

 

I don’t believe Porsche used stitching on the dash pads of any 3-liter Turbos.

This looks like the front edge of the dash pad and not the top seam of a leather top. However, it does have the sheen and texture of leather vs. vinyl. The speaker grill shown in the manual photo fits like a glove.

 

That's my understanding also.

 

Thomas, I think it speaks for itself.

That said, as Rich suggests, the lack of images was not helpful.

As regards the prices achieved at the recent Pebble Beach weekend auctions, my take is that some buyers who are behind-the-curve are still over-paying for cars whilst the astute have pulled back 6 months ago. After all, at these same auctions that somebody paid $6 million for a Ferrari Enzo said to have been built for the Pope and was the last one made (the factory confirms neither) and yet this very week an almost identical Ferrari Enzo brought my client $2.5 million. There is an astonishing amount of random application of values out there, and I think the realization of this and an obvious market correction are both setting in. This is better for buyers, dealers & sellers alike.

 

My ex 75 turbo (#0109) had a leather dashboard, am pretty sure it's original, was a one-owner car when I bought it.

 

The dash of my 1975 had the same stitching and also the dash speaker cut out

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I took the liberty of saving the photos when it was for sale and the dash pad is leather with a molded front edge on the top front (no stitching). This molded front edge was used on all 930's (perhaps until 1988 or 1989 when they switched to vinyl dash pads).

This dash pad is different from other 1975 dash pads I've seen (0242, Giuliakeka's, etc.), in that the leather extends below the speaker grill opening so once again not sure how they fit the grill in place unless it is smaller than a standard vinyl pad.

It could be original, but I don't think I've ever seen a leather dash pad that pristine with any notable mileage. That being said, if it was recovered it was an exceptional job with the correct leather sheen and pattern.
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Dear all,

does anybody of you have experience in driving a 3.0 with and without slip lock diff in comparison?

I only got models with slip lock diff and would be interested in some reports on it.

Thanx.

cal

 

I have one of each- unless you are driving pretty hard - not a lot of difference. On a track the limited slip cars hook up better coming out of corners and are more stable under braking.
Phil

 

Thanx phil

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Joe,

I assume you will be at Rensport V. Can I find you & say hello if you will be there?

 

Michael, drop me a line via email and we can synch up.

 

Ebay is a NO NO for cars like these. Really about all collector cars over $100,000 struggle on ebay. Just not the place to sell such a car. Wrong crowd too.

 

I want to support this opinion.

Would be like buying Van Gogh or other valuables at the flea market as a regular place to do so....

But eBay is a good place to get a world wide attention for a certain car....