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  1. 97spiderman

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    Currently we have a decent Porsche turbo cab in the stable, she has about 86k miles but runs well. The allure for a 355 has tempted me for several years now. How many on the board have both and can offer a comparison. I know the German/Italian differences but .....
     
  2. madturk

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    I had 930 before and am dying to get another one. I'm in the market for a 964/911 since I will butcher it to be a track car.
    But, 355>930. I wouldn't even think to let the 355 go for a 930.
    You are in a good position right now.... You should be able to sell the 930 and easily get a 355.
    If I could only have one of these I would take the 355 no questions.
     
  3. Skippr1999

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    I have both and can't part with either. They are both exciting but different. The 355 is sexier, but the 930 is a icon. 930 cheap service, 355 not so much. Both turn heads and are visceral. It's a total toss up for me. Sorry I know that doesn't help, but I really can't choose they're both so great.
     
  4. Prancinghorse17

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    I had a 930 turbo about 8 years ago and now own a 355 gts. Compared to your 930, the 355 sounds way better. Very different driving experience. I used to call my old 930 the big nasty, because absolutely nothing would happen when flooring the gas until about 4k rpm, at which point all hell would break loose. This is a good thing. So, you'll miss the torque of your 930 when the boost kicks in.

    The 355 will initially feel a tad slower, until you learn that this car needs to live above 5500 rpm and then it should rip pretty good if it's a healthy car. Handling and breaking hands down to the 355. Steering brilliant in both cars.

    In all honesty, the 355 does remind me a little bit of the 930 in terms of rawness. Don't expect it to be too much more modern feeling than your 930. Again, this might be a positive for you. The 997 gen Porsches took a big stepfiward tech wise and I would say the 430 or even 458 for Ferrari.

    Before you buy your 355, test drive it or PPI it or both. I loved the 930, but a well sorted 355 will take you one step further in one category for sure: fun factor!
     
  5. Redlyne_mr2

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    The 930 is one of the worst Porsches I've ever driven.. lol sorry to the guys who love it on here.
     
  6. madturk

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    You are either crazy or 20 years old and must be comparing it to the never generation turbo cars.
    Obviously, you haven't driven it for more than few minutes. 930 is awesome!
     
  7. SoCal1

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    I called mine the widow maker, all it wanted to do was spin
     
  8. skierlawyer

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    I have a Stock F355 and a Modded 930. My 930 makes 450hp, has a G50 5 speed, suspension work, bigger wheels and wide tires...

    I agree with the post that said they couldn't part with either of them. I also have a Diablo and a 997 turbo, but my F355 and 930 would be my last 2 cars I would sell.

    Sound goes to the F355, Although at full song the 930 sounds great also.
    Throttle response, goes to the F355. No turbo lag and easy to modulate.
    Acceleration goes to the 930, on boost it pulls harder than even an F430.
    Looks is subjective, Porsche is great looking in the Wide Body, especially lowered, but I give the nod to the F355 for being one of the best looking cars, period.
    Ownership experience, car nuts go gaga for the 930, but the general population looks at it like an old Porsche, the F355 gets much more attention.
    F355 is easier to drive: lighter clutch, power steering, mid engine balance, predictable throttle.
    930 is ballistic out of corners when the turbo lights up and is SO satisfying when timed right.
    BOTH cars put a huge smile on my face, I'm proud to own both.

    My 2 cents are the 930 is the best Porsche, the F355 is the best Ferrari.

    I would take a stock F355 over a stock 930, but a few minor mods makes the 930 magical and nearly a toss up.

    I've never experienced my dream of an F40, but I am guessing that it's got a bit of both of the F355 and 930 qualities but that's beyond my pay grade.

    Buying today, the F355 is the better value, my guess is they are more likely to go up in value from here, the 930 value has already jumped up.

    To answer the OP: Get the Ferrari.
     
  9. skierlawyer

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    Mine was tail happy with the original size tires, putting modern 315/35 - 17 rears make a world of difference, now its extremely well planted and can even oversteer in control.
     
  10. phrogs

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    I had Both I really did enjoy my 930.
    It really is the only Porsche that I have ever really wanted.

    Loved that fat ass, But really id take another 930 over a 355.
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  11. tres55

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    I love 930's but comparing it to the 355 is apple to oranges.

    993 Turbo and 355 is a fair comparison.

    355 > 930 all day every day.
     
  12. 97spiderman

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    Thanks to all for the input. We traveled 6 hours this weekend to test drive a 97 355 spider and were disappointed with the experience. Partially our expectations were high(along with the asking price) The car is a nice 5 footer, but has several issues, lack of power, difficult shifting, minor small issues. I will be seeking a PPI for sure prior to writing the check.

    thanks again to all and wish us well
     
  13. skierlawyer

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    Lack of power and difficult shifting sounds awful. Look for another example. Should shift easy once warm and should feel powerful especially above 5K rpm
     
  14. madturk

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    It should feel very strong and shifts should be smoother compared to a stock 930.
    Did you have her scream red line?
     
  15. madturk

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    Maybe he missed the turbo lag??
    Maybe he missed the I'll kill you coming out of a corner??
    The 355 does not have these qualities.
    Like some already said the 993 turbo vs 355 is a conversation. The 930 can't compare in any way.
     
  16. SoCal1

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    Mine was a 79 that I got in 80. No such thing as modern tires back then LOL :)
    All you could do was ride the brake to keep it spooled up on power
    Got rid of it in 81

    :)
     
  17. ferraripete

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    I feel the same. For those saying the 355 is better in every sense...Lol. 355 is a lovely car but drive a good 930 turbo the way it is capable and you will want to fire up a cigarette. Iconic for all the right reasons and has a race pedigree not to be matched by many if not none!!!
     
  18. Robbe

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    depending on what you are looking for in a car.
    The 930 is not a headturner, merely a classic Porsche these days.
    A 355 is a Ferrari, and still turns heads with the kids, which says enough in that department.
    As for driving, the 930 as already mentioned a lot before, is a slow car under 3k rpm. So with a cold engine, and in town it is not that exciting.
    As for the sound, a 930 simply does not have much sound at all, and what you hear is not that pretty either.

    Before the hype started, a 930 was half the price of a 355, and for a reason.

    (owned a 3.0 930 and still have a slightly tweaked 3.3)
     
  19. hyenahf

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    [QUOTE

    NO 911 series platform out handles the 355 up to 2011, particularly upwards of 150 mph. That is a FACT. I can't personally qualify anything after that date.[/QUOTE]

    Johnny

    Hmmm that's quite a statement. In the 90's the the ferrari challenge series and the Porsche cup cars ran support races for the F1 circuit. These are basically stock street cars with minor suspension and ecu tweets as you know. The ferrari cars had much power than the 911 cups. 348 I reckon had 40-50hp over the 964 while 355 had nearly a hundred over the 993

    In nearly all cases the Porsche ran significantly faster lap times than the challenge cars at the various F1 tracks. These races were ran on the same track on the same day. I actually witness this at an imola F1 race weekend.

    So if it didn't handle as well as the 348/355 cars, what gives?
     
  20. 97spiderman

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    Our shiny black 930 turbo cab runs out as good as she looks (sounding just as good) all the while. We have seen 150 on several occasions. The 355 spider we test drove over the weekend let us down. Standing still she looked great, but the lack of punch with the "stiff" gear shift and suspension "looseness", I am just not sure. Perhaps I set my expectations too high, has anyone here been on a blind date?

    Tuesday I will be reaching out for a qualified tech in the Southeastern part of PA to perform a PPI. I welcome more names and numbers.

    Currently my thoughts are along the lines of plug $15.k into the car and be along our way.

    thanks again for the support and feedback
     
  21. Prancinghorse17

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    OP,

    Your initial response to the car is to be expected coming from your 930. As I mentioned, the 355 will initially feel slower compared to your 930 because of the torque difference. Also keep in mind that the spider is typically the slowest variant of the 355, but not by much due to slight weigh increase over coupe and GTS cars.

    That being said, what you need to really do is redline the 355 at 8700 rpm in second and then hit it again in third. If that doesn't plaster a grin on your face, then there's something wrong with that particular car. 355s can very so much from car to car and yours likely just needs a good service to get her back up to full strength.

    I have a 95, and I ran against a 2010 m3 with the v8 for a couple gears. Despite the modern tech, the heavier m3 fell behind by about a car and couldn't pull ahead. In other words, the 355 can still be quick. My car does have a tubi, and an aftermarket exhaust does help open things up as well.

    I will say that imho that having the pleasure of owning both, the build quality of the 930 was slightly better. Old school Porsches are rock solid, at least mine was. Nevertheless, the 355 spider shouldn't feel loose. You're doing yourself right with a PPI.
     
  22. skierlawyer

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    Most F355s are pretty much stock with the exception of exhaust. A lot of 930s are significantly modded. A modded 930 is about equal to the experience of a F355, but a F355 is better than a stock 930.
     
  23. 97spiderman

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    As far as I can tell our '87 930 cab has: 1 bar spring and a RUF muffler, no other modifications that I know of. My gut is telling me to have a PPI completed, if all checks out go for it and add a Fabspeed exhaust kit. They claim 40+ hp

    I am curious as to the gearbox NOT being smooth shifting?
     
  24. phrogs

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    Did you buy it new??

    My second gear syncro was jacked on my car thanks to someone that ruined it, so I had to shift it really slowly Into 2nd so it wouldn't grind. No fast banging into second but I enjoyed it.


    The 930 turned heads where I live. As much as a Ferrari ? of course not even though in my little town we have a lot of super rich people pleanty of super cars around but its not about people headturning I just love the look of the 930.

    Its old its not as fast, but it was still fun as hell.

    The 355?? Well lets be honest about it when someone asks these questions in any generation on this board all the owners always think their cars are the beter car in any "VS" question.

    To john go find a different car than you looked at.

    Dont even get a PPI on it waste of cash you did your own PPi and you didnt like it.
     
  25. vracer

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    Ask the same question on a 930 board. While I have never been in a 930, I spent a full day driving a friend's 993TT on back country roads. I found it too "good" a car, too modern feeling, and not nearly the FUN of my 355.

    FWIW, I attended the inaugural F1 race at Indy and wondered why the F-cars raced before the P-cars. Ferrari has to be faster, right? Wrong! I don't remember the exact difference in times, but I think it was in the 7-10 sec. per lap range, maybe more. But I doubt that is what you're getting the car for. Get the 355 for a fun winner.
     

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