i had this toolkit for sale for the mondial a customer of mine and f chatter came to an agreement on price but he later found out this is not a correct mondial toolkit for his car but a 308 one he tells me it is for a 1980-85 car can you confirm this? p.s. the toolkit is still for sale Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The bag itself [=the tool roll, not the tools] is indeed from about 1982-83: this can be seen from the fact that it has two small pockets for the pliers, not a large one. The pliers have their nose in what is in fact the pocket for the spark plug tool, which is missing. The screwdrivers are deep translucent brown red, which is correct for 1983 to 1985; most late QVs and almost all 328s have the same screwdrivers, but with a white "Ferrari" script on the handles. What is the brand on the wrenches? Polytools, Utema, Everest or Kravm? Rgds
The bag is the same as my late 1980 308 GTB. I have Polytools wrenches. Yes, the spark plug tool is missing, but I don't have the hook (should I have it? I never saw one in any kit). I have a slightly different pliers, but in the same color, silver and orange. ciao
Yours seems 100 per 100 correct to me, Alberto, from your description. 308 and 328 tool rolls do not have tow hooks, the car has a ring (rather fragile looking) welded to the chassis bar in front of the battery , passenger side, for that purpose. Rgdd
Post-scriptum: the pliers in Emilio's tool roll are definitively the later model of pliers (as for 328s) with the "guards" for the fingers, black metallic nose...but the script on the handle is black? On most that I know of, it is in White, Ferrari on on handle, Kravm on the other. I suspect these pliers come from a later tool roll, he should have the same as those described by Alberto: orange plastic, no guard for the fingers, silver nose; this to match the bag. Rgds
Yes, my pliers have no guards for the fingers. The emergency window cranck was just in 328 tools bag, correct? ciao
No, the emergency window crank is for 308 only. Almost all 328 simply do not have a plug in the door for the crank ( they don't need an "emergency something: the windows work on 328s...) except a very small number of very early 328s that have the socket for the crank in the doors: I know one at least. There were two different designs for the emergency window crank, and some of the late 308QVs tool rolls do not even have one. As for Emilio's tool roll, to me he needs the correct model of pliers, the 14mm spark plug tool, an emergency window crank and he will have a perfect 1981/84 tool roll. Rgds
Ok, I'm very happy to learn that as I do not have the cranck in my 86 328 tool kit nor in the 88 GTB turbo... thank you very much! I'm waiting to receive the window cranck for my 308, that is missing. I did not ckeck if I have it in my three 208 turbo 82 model (but it's not mentioned in the tool kit description on the spare part catalogue). ciao
Those pliers are the modern replacement part, I bought a pair for $65 from Ricambi last year. No the 308 does not need a front tow hook, there is an oval cut in the front valence, that reveals a metal bar in the frame.
This is the tool kit of my garage queen, the 8 k miles one owner pristine 1983 208 GTS turbo: Bruno, can you see the window cranck among the tools? I don't know how a window cranck looks like... please someone helps me to learn what an emergency window cranck looks like! The kit has Utema wrenches ciao Image Unavailable, Please Login
Yes, the window crank is the "later design" of the crank here, it is the black "T" bar just at the left of the pliers. The older design just look like...a handcrank! (une manivelle, in french) Rgds
Busy with new job, but pop in, from time to time! Albert, I will look for a picture of the crank, it looks like a speed wrench. Off set shank, with a conical shape handle that freely spins, and then as we mention, there is an "early one" and a "late one".... I sold mine off in a kit I assembled for a fibreglass car in the UK. I had a window broken out and drove for two years with it open. Alway drew attention when parked out in the rain...they would run into the restaurant to remind me!
Later plug wrench also, intended to combine with a wrench to turn it. The early T handle would tend to rust up, freezing the ball bearing, and then lacked flexibility!! Most of mine are frozen in the middle.
Thank you Big Tex and thank you Bruno. My late 1980 car should have that emergency "T" cranck or the "cranckshaft like" (manovella) one? Which of the two is shown in the pictures of this 308 GTB 1980 spare part catalogue? Ferrari 308 GTB (1980) - Tool-Kit: Page 046 | Order Online Eurospares ciao
Thanks, Markus: i will go for the "Cranckshaft like" - manovella- one. My 208 GTS turbo was built on December 1983 ciao
I beleive (do not know), that this picture shows a correct complete Set for a 1980 GTB. (but I could be wrong) The manovella is black with a plastic handle and not silver pure (without handle) like many repros are. Image Unavailable, Please Login
The tool roll seems correct to me Markus, except that we do not know the brand of the wrenches (if "Everest", then before 1980 / if "Polytools" from 1980 onwards) it has the earlier screwdrivers (amber yellow handles) the carburettor tool BUT the later model spark plug tool, the one that works with the 14 mm combination wrench, not the earlier one Big Tex was speaking about above... Rgds ( I just love threads about tool kits!)
Thank you, Bruno, for this information. Do you have a picture of both versions of the spark tool for comparison ?
The spark plug size itself changed, between the two tools. Not interchangable. Later plugs took a smaller socket.
