That's right, although if I knew about Rosso scuderia F1 2007, I'd have had that. But can't complain - very happy!
Let's take this discussion to the Break-in threads.. in the mean time. Awesome pics!! Keep'em flowing
Sure. I'm just uncomfortable when someone (you in this case) makes an unequivocal statement about engine break in procedures being completely unnecessary. Yep. Awesome pictures
Very nice 😍 I am actually thinking to buy one in Rosso Scuderia but am not sure if I should go for Rosso Corsa.... See picture enclosed of the Rosso Scuderia.
Most amazing car! Very different driving than anything else! Always smiling behind the wheel! Post some more pics!! MJ
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I have a Rosso Scuderia and the color is a bit more orange than in that picture. Much nicer than Rosso Corsa in my opinion which is a bit boring. I like the red to be brighter, especially with the NART stripe which gives a good contrast. All very subjective of course. The color shows off very nicely in both natural and artificial light. I had Esoteric do a paint correction and it is amazing. My car currently is in the shop for the airbag recall but I can take some pictures if it returns on Monday if you like.
You are correct of course about the brakes and such, but the comment was to stay below 5,000 rpm, which is nonsense. You can enjoy 9,000 rpm the first day. "bed" ceramic brakes???? I am not sure there will be any significant bedding. Perhaps the first 100 miles on your pads but they are so good - even straight from the factory - that you have to be a complete hooligan to go beyond their capabilities. I definitely wouldn't do a track day the day of delivery but some spirited driving? No problem.
Take it on a track day the day you take delivery, Thrash it to death for a thousand miles,then take it back to the dealer for it's first service/check. It has a 7 year warranty after all. I doubt you'll break it.
I just try to pass on good advice. Prudent. Thoughtful. Of course you can make your own decisions. I'M just surprised that so many people are comfortable ignoring Ferrari's engine break-in procedures that are included in the owner's manual BTW, I don't know why Ferrari doesn't address bedding CCM brakes in the owner's manual?? But here's a page out of McLaren owner's manual. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Your car has already been on the track by the time it is delivered. They beat the crap out of the car for the first 40 miles straight off the assembly line.
Where are you getting this information? You're passing out more BS than I've seen in a while. They don't beat the crap out of the cars. They basically just drive around as more of a "sanity check" to make sure everything works and nothing falls off
I've been there, talked to them, watched it.. go see for yourself. They drive the cars hard around the track. I'm talking about things I've seen and talked directly to the factory mechanics about. When was the last time you were in Maranello at Fiorano? or talked to the Mechanics running out the engines on the bench (actually an enclosed glass door machine)? I was there in February. the 30-40 miles (100km) they put on the car isn't spent at leisurely pace driving around the track. These are professional drivers testing the SSC, brakes, engine and gear box at the limit.. Where do you get your info?
maybe my information isn't as up to date as yours. but over the past 10 years i have not seen anybody post things like you have posted. but if you are correct then let's see if anybody else can confirm this. if this is Ferrari's routine procedure then surely lots of others have seen the same thing. anybody been to Martanello and watched them beat the crap out of the new cars on the track right off the assembly line?
To be precise, from the assembly line they go a large garage waiting area. They are then driven through town at a leisurely pace before being taken on the track at Fiorano and driving at the limit (which means hard) for ~30 miles (10-15 laps). If the driver thinks the brakes or SSC or gearbox doesn't seem quite right, they bring the car in to the garage and make adjustments and repeat.
I've been there less tan a year ago and while I haven't talked to the mechanics, I've payed special attention to the production car testing. Standard production cars are tested <100 km on open road only, no track, no Fiorano. Sure the test drivers don't baby them but by no means they beat the crap out of them. No element is pushed deliberately to the limit, it's just a test to check everything is OK, as has been said.
Ive been to Maranello many times and never seen cars going slow other than warm-up lap and cool down. I've never bedded my breaks in new Ferraris and never limited the revs and I've never had a problem with my cars. I also put a lot of kms on my cars which, seems to be more than most here and I track team from time to time. You either believe Jasone or you don't - that's fine. I thought this was the picture thread!!
I'm glad I only buy new Ferraris. I Feel bad for the guy that ends up with Ferraris that weren't taken care of properly.
Wow, to complete those instructions given by McLaren to bed in the ceramic brakes I'm more likely to cause an accident trying to complete those tasks or get pulled over by the local police for dangerous driving. I can't imagine the attention I would get completing a cycle of 16 stops from 130km to 40km. The other issue for most is where would you find the space to stop up to 32 times from 130 to 30 plus driving 3 km again to cool off the brakes in between?? I know the local race track in my area would ban anyone who try's to bed in their brakes on the track for it has caused serious accidents when other racers are not expecting drivers to apply maxuim threshold braking to complete the cycle of the break-in.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I went way out in mountains with nobody around. Things were going pretty smooth until a coyote ran in front of me when I was going 80 MPH Since this is a picture thread I'll post a picture. BTW, here's the procedure I use. It's easier to understand. LOL Step 1 Brake 16 times from 50 to 20 MPH LIGHT-MEDIUM pedal pressure Cycle time 10 seconds between brake applications Drive 2+ miles to cool brakes NOTE: cool down period is minimum - can be longer. Step 2 Brake 16 times from 75 to 20 MPH MEDIUM pedal pressure Cycle time 15 seconds between brake applications Drive 2+ miles to cool brakes NOTE: cool down period is minimum - can be longer. Step 3 Brake 10 times from 80 to 20 MPH HEAVY pedal pressure Cycle time 20 seconds between brake applications Drive 2.5+ miles to cool brakes NOTE: cool down period is minimum - can be longer. Step 4 Brake 3 times from 60 to 0 MPH FULL ABS pedal pressure Cycle time 10 seconds between brake applications Drive 5+ miles to cool brakes NOTE: cool down period is minimum - can be longer. Inspect disks to ensure there is a good/consistent Coating of pad material on the disk surface. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Holy crap Sorry to hear about the mishap with the coyote. Poor animal and sad to see the damage caused to your car. That crack doesn't look good. Always sad to hear about situations like this. Btw: Where I live I would have to drive about 45 minutes to find roads that would be straight enough and deserted enough to try the break-in procedure mentioned above. The other issue I have is those rural roads have a maximum speed of 80 km an hour and if I was caught driving 50 km over the limit (130 km) I would lose the car and my license for a week. Not worth the risk for me. Sometimes I wished I lived in Colorado where the speed limits are basically whatever you're comfortable with.
I didn't expect a coyote at 10:00 in the morning. I felt bad for the coyote, but it was over instantly. Still felt bad though. We have deer and moose around here (this happened in Utah) so it could have been much worse. An fchat guy told me that he hit a possum on the track at 160 MPH in his 458 challenge car. Completely destroyed the entire front of the car the possum was history too. They easily replaced the front bumper on my Speciale. It's one piece and an easy fix. Good as new. But that coyote interrupted me in step 3 so I need to go somewhere and finish the process...I'll probably start the process from the beginning...when I get back to California where it's safer :-j Image Unavailable, Please Login
