Hamiltons performances as dominant as senna according to David coulthard

Looks like Hamilton is as good as Villenueve

◾Hamilton went on to take four victories in his debut season, which remains the joint record (shared with Jacques Villeneuve's 1996 campaign). He came agonisingly close to winning the championship crown that year as well, which would have been a first - no rookie has ever lifted the F1 drivers' title.

◾He didn't have to wait long, however; one season later and Hamilton was crowned world champion. Again, this is a joint record - with the exception of Villeneuve in 1997, no other driver has won their first world title in only their second year in the sport

 

What?

I said nothing bad about Hamilton... I was defending the year button beat him...

 

still hilarious.

 

that's an interesting insight.

 

And 2014 is all you Hamilton fanboys can talk about. Although I still have not understood why talking down Vettel does make Hamilton any better? But one day a young driver might come along and beat Hamilton in the same car and according your own standards everything Hamilton has achieved before will be worth nothing suddenly....How strange is that? And especially why are you talking about Hamilton being great now when you do not know that until that day the other comes around?

And I am not surprised that you did not reply on my other post because this is what you usually do...If you do not have any arguments against you simply ignore things and start with "But in 2014..." again...

Just for curiosity: when did you want to start with the "common sense" or do you keep that for a later date?

You really think that Mercedes became good because of Hamilton coming along? You must be kidding...
And "every team he left" was exactly ONE and please read the article about Mercedes engines and the fuel posted here in the F1 section earlier and you know the problem McLaren had with the Mercedes PU has absolutely nothing to do with Hamilton leaving either.

 

How many seasons did Hamilton have at Mclaren to get his 26 poles vs Alonso's 4?

Interested you tall about stats and then miss the point completely. How ironic.

 

Twins overload. I'm out.

 

Seems like you are not understanding the stat.
It's not 4 for Alonso. It's 4 total. Alonso had 2, Kov and But 1 each.

It's basically 3 drivers together managed 4 poles while Hamilton managed 26.

Any way you slice it, it's not a pretty picture.

Rookie Hamilton had 3 times more poles than the 2xWDC Alonso. 6 vs 2

With Button (another world champion) it got even uglier. 9 vs 1

With Kovalainen it was 11 vs 1

 

So you're saying he's brilliant at getting pole?

How come that didn't matter last year when Nico was getting most of them, and now it's an incredible statistic?

 

I was waiting for you to think of this. All of that is possible. There is actually a very good chance of that happening. The only difference is that Hamilton will be an old man like Kimi while Vettel allowed it to happen in his own team during his PRIME years.

 

I asked earlier to show me where I said that poles didn't matter. Try to find one negative thing I said about Rosberg's records. Last year just proves that Rosberg is no slouch. He definitely did a better job in qualifying.

 

Poles do not get the points, race wins do. Hamilton struggled to beat Alonso, and never did in 2007, check the points, he did beat heikki (that must've been tough eh?), he had a rather equal time of it with button, with them sharing the spoils, he certainly did not dominate him, and yet button is not exactly a great, and Nico hammered him on poles last year, yet it's convenient that doesn't matter, as for 2014, it would be about wins, not poles I guess.

However often you twins try to hammer your points at us all, I for one just see them on screen and wonder how misguided it sounds. Any statistics can be twisted however you like, the facts remain, Alonso and Vettel are great drivers, and on skill, they are ahead of elton. As for the people in the paddock, of the ones I know personally, Vettel is better liked than elton. Of his leaving McLaren, I know a lot more than I would be allowed to disclose on this site, but one thing I can say is that mclarens demise has been nothing to do with whether or not elton stayed at the team, but I would hazard a guess that he isn't missed by many there

You should listen, no one says elton isn't a fast driver, it's that he is NOT the driving god you seem to want to make him out to be. Swap him into the Ferrari for a weekend, and Vettel into the Mercedes, or Alonso, or ricciardo, and they would do exactly what elton does, and he would be an also-ran again like he was when the McLaren wasn't quick, and before the Mercedes became what it is today. When the Mercedes was still a dog, he didn't exactly set the world alight, and as someone pointed out, Nico was the driver that got their first win, not elton, so he obviously isn't that good

 

Why do you think i'm talking about something YOU said? I'm talking about the fanbois generally.....and whilst i'm too lazy to bother looking, I'd put money on your agreeing with the others at the time, if you'd posted.

The facts are that being fast in qualifying is a huge asset, and it will certainly help you win races, but there are no points for getting pole.

and there's also no doubt that, unlike many others, when lewis faces adversity he falls apart. hopefully he grows out of that.

 

Don't put too much money on that. I'm 99% sure that I never wrote or agreed with anyone that said poles didn't matter or that Nico's qualifying accomplishments were rubbish.

 

have another read of what I wrote.

 

What a quit annoying is that now that Rosberg has been useless for a couple of weekends, the twins have their sight on now proving how good Hamilton is to Vettel.

Just simple proof that they will not stop until everyone bows down to his hamiltonness and swear allegiance to the king of being, rap God and all round fastest ever driver in the history of everything, bar none.

 

And even then, they'll ridicule us for not seeing the light earlier, thus deeming us only 2nd rate hamboners.

 

I think it's cool for Elton to have such great fans...i remenber when i was a kid many girls had posters on their bedrooms of some gay band named Bros (LOLOLO) now times have changed and some guys have posters oF Elron...all good......

 

are you weakening?

their incessant whining is actually strengthening my resolve.

 

why are you arguing against something that's factual??

Two teams for Lewis....both top notch already when he joined them.

3 teams for Vettel, 2 were underdogs and had achieved nothing before he came along.....he took a team that had achieved nothing and won 4 WDCs on the trot.

Lewis won a WDC in the third most successful team in F1 ever.....and is now in a team with a car that's a second a lap faster than an other car. He'd deserve to be horsewhipped if he wasn't winning.

and he's beating his team mate who, according to you, is useless.

 

**** no. Only thing I'll admit to (and have done plenty of times) is that Hamilton is a great driver. Not a fan, will never be, because Hamilton is a price and I don't support pricks

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