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  1. bobhitch

    bobhitch Formula Junior

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    The new iphone 6s won't connect with my 2014 FF.
    It connects no problem with the Mercedes,BMW and even the Fiat!
    The phone won't 'find' the FF
    any ideas?
     
  2. LARRYH

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    try turning the iPhone off and back on see if that helps then retry the pairing ...
    seems to solve a lot of problems with my iPhone..(which is not a S)
     
  3. bobhitch

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    thanks Larry - I tried that -no success
    the 5s I had previously worked just fine!
     
  4. Entropy

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    I'm assuming you've "followed the directions"...(sorry, had to ask, I spent 90mins trying to program our GMC, and then I read the manual)

    Couple thoughts

    1) make sure you've deleted your prior phone from the pairing list on the car (if you have not already done that). Do on both car and phone (i.e. if you restored your new iPhone from a different one, the settings will carry over but it won't connect due to it being a different device).

    2) unsure about your other cars, but with our 2016 Cayenne, we had a similar issue. Wasn't the car as much as the different bluetooth rev on the (new) phone. In order to get it to work, we had to clear the settings in the iPhones (a 6 and 6S) and it worked immediately. It's a somewhat known issue with PCM, unsure if it could be same effect with the Harman system.

    3) random thoughts - 1) make sure the phone is not plugged into the car's USB 2) one thing I noticed on our new FF is the time lag/sequence between the phone and car were off - i.e. the car would see the phone, or the phone would see the car, and in essence I was pushing buttons too quickly. Once the phone presents the pairing code, wait for the system (or, vice versa).

    Hope that helps.
     
  5. deltona

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    Hi Bob,

    For you information I have an iPhone 6, not 6S, running the latest iOS 9.

    It paired wirelessly through Bluetooth on my 2013 FF when I bought it 10 days ago and has been working fine since.

    Do you have the same nav unit as me on your 2014? Mine has the USB socket on the main unit bottom right hand corner, not the later unit that can have Apple CarPlay.

    One thing I've had to do before on other cars is delete Bluetooth connections from. iPhone and car and pair them again. Hope this helps.
     
  6. bobhitch

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    Thanks Gents,
    Justin,I have the same infotainment system as you - wanted to have carplay retrofitted but was told by the guys in Swindon that it wasn't possible.
     
  7. LV Eric

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    one should always upgrade their cars and phones simultaneously, then there is a better chance of compatibility. Very simple solution. :D
     
  8. Entropy

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    I"d call BS, unless there is some UK-specific law. Assuming you can buy Carplay there in the first place (you can), retrofit is doable.

    Pricey, yes - essentially you have to replace your current unit with the Carplay one. Check the Cali T forum, a guy in China just did it.

    You cannot "upgrade", you have to "replace". It's not an authorized AfterSales product, but it is definitely doable if you want it that bad and are willing to pay for the parts and labor.
     
  9. bobhitch

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    Thanks,
    I'd be happy to pay to replace the current system with carplay (within reason-my mother always told me that a fool and his money are easily parted!)
    Does anyone have a UK lead,as to where I could get it replaced and/or a rough idea of cost?
     
  10. rmitchell248

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    I hated connecting the FF to my iPhone 6. I was going to get the 6s then realized I'd need to re-pair the phone to the FF and decided it's not worth it. I'll wait for the 7 then see about undertaking the task.
     
  11. deltona

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    #11 deltona, Sep 28, 2015
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    So we have the same system Bob. The CarPlay upgrade/retrofit interests me too.

    I have a fair bit of experience with electronics and car audio so I am almost certain a retrofit is possible. Without pulling the unit out and looking at the back of the unit and connections here's my assumption.

    1. Our unit and the Carplay unit seem to be the same size 'Double DIN' standard car audio head units.

    2. They will almost certainly have a different connection at the back, but it could be as simple as a wiring adaptor set that connect to the existing FF wireloom.

    3. As our current unit only controls Audio/Radio/Media and Navigation and does not control any of the other vehicle functions like car vehicle setup, Aircon, other displays etc it would seem that a swap over wouldn't need any software changes to the main cars firmware. This is a big bonus!

    If the price was justifiable i would also be interesting in buying the Ferrari Carplay unit and retrofitting myself but I am assuming they will charge an extortionate price for it as a part.

    Another option would be to buy an aftermarket unit. I haven't tried one but Pioneer make what looks like a really nice Carplay unit for about £700. I expect in terms of Navigation, Audio etc it will be at least as good as Ferrari's factory Carplay and it has a DAB digital Tuner too. Like most people i'd prefer the 'factory look' but as the Pioneer unit is mainly just a large screen it wouldn't be that obvious.

    AVIC-F70DAB High-end navigation AV system with 7-inch touchscreen, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, Bluetooth, CD/DVD and DAB radio - Pioneer Sat Nav, GPS
     
  12. FFMAC

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    Odd. I had no problems whatsoever pairing my iPhone 6 to my '12 FF or my current '15 with CarPlay. Took seconds both times.
     
  13. LV Eric

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    on a serious not i'm going to try this plan today, if history repeats itself they will never pair. i'm dumb as a box of rocks with this sort of stuff.
     
  14. Caeruleus11

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    Everything you say is perfectly logical. I would check this out with the dealer or someone else who really knows this stuff because you just never know what other stuff they change. It could be fairly easy or it might be very involved and cost prohibitive. I'd keep the factory look. If you want to get into aftermarket then my advice is keep the factory head unit and use something like a Bit One (there are probably newer things my knowledge is a few years old) to allow you to use better amps and speakers and replace those. This way the car always looks stock and retains the stock functionality.
     
  15. LV Eric

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    on a serious note, i was half joking/serious. compatibility forward or backward technology by car manufacturers is pretty weak for my experiences. I run out of patients faster than i should.
     
  16. deltona

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    Bob, have you spoken to anyone at Ferrari yet regarding this?

    If you don't mind PM me and let me know as i'd also like to start making enquiries. I'm on a Carplay mission! ;-)
     
  17. bobhitch

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    Jason ,
    I spoke to Paul smith in Swindon .I don't know who your contact was but I believe you bought your car from them as well.He made enquiries and came back to me saying it wasn't possible 😒
    Cheers,Bob
     
  18. deltona

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    Thanks Bob, was that recently? I have some other contacts I will try.
     
  19. bobhitch

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    Depends what you call recently,
    I had the car delivered in March so I guess it was less than 6 months ago
    Cheers,Bob
     
  20. Entropy

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  21. rumble

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    Bob did you get your 6S connected?

    I was about to buy one but don't want it if i can't connect it.
     
  22. bobhitch

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    Not yet - I'm going to try a couple of things later on today -I'll let you know!
     
  23. bobhitch

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    No success - So the iPhone 5S and 6 pair no problem but all of our 6S's (we have 3) connect to all the other cars and bluetooth devices (including headphones etc) but the FF will not connect.
    Has anyone who has the new 6S managed to pair successfully??
     
  24. LV Eric

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    i tried, i failed.


    iPhone 6 and a 14 F12


    ugh!!!!
     
  25. SVCalifornia

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    Here's a shot. I've noticed some BT implementations are sensitive to the order of the pairing. Start the iPhone to receive the pair request from the FF first then quickly start the FF pairing sequence. If that doesn't work, try the reverse sequence (FF first, then iPhone enable).

    SV
     

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