What the heck is going on with this place

Whinge time . Lets start


1.

Replicas, based on Ferrari donors, discussions.

Last time I navigated my way to this site I had to click on www.FerrariChat.com so I assumed that I would be chatting to Ferrari enthusiasts and people that like Ferraris, and are fans of old cars especially in the Vintage section.

Here are the indisputable facts:
a. It's just a car.
b. A genuine Ferrari was destroyed to make this replica.
c. If we are talking about a 1960's Ferrari we are talking about an historic car that has survived nearly 55 years. That for any car is amazing. Heck that is older than I am.
d. Yes some were lost to period rebodies, but that was when they were near new and happens to all cars and is part of the improvement/try things process. Note very few period rebodies REPLICATED another Ferrari model.
e. Interestingly we have a category of car enthusiasts that dribble over these sorts of survivor cars.
f. Most of these cars were very much saveable and not crashed or rusted beyond feasible restoration.
g. These old cars were hand beaten out by Pininfarina/Scagletti craftsman and welded by hand in to the resulting vehicle. That should mean something to this community.
h. The replica is made for profits, ie. somebody is making money or it would not happen.
i. The replica is made by a nobody. Skilful yes but adds nothing to its collectability. Yes some are have a better reputation than others but we are not anywhere near Pinin Farina or Scagletti and never will be.
j. Yes the owner of the car can do what they please, but this is not www.OwnershipAndLegality.com

I cannot understand why so many are/were unsympathetic about GTE #2709. The correct response for ANY and ALL Ferrari enthusiasts is "what a shame" and "I wish this would not happen".

Would the posters that will not say "I wish this would not happen" take a 6" grinder to their Ferraris and cut them up? If you won't then aren't you being two faced? If you would take a grinder to your Ferrari, are you really a Ferrari enthusiast?


2.

Lewis Hamilton

At no time in this sites history, or at least since I've been a member (which is quite a long time), have we had this sort of weird situation in the F1 section where, for example, a poster could say that "Kimi is a rapist" and receive hardly a murmur (to this incorrect post), and yet the response to "I think Lewis lost a bit of time on that last lap" would cause an outrage of passionate how dare you say that about Lewis posts and go on for 20+ pages.

Again this is www.FerrariChat.com and Lewis does not even drive a Ferrari. When Michael drove for Ferrari he had his fans and his detractors, same with Alonso, etc. but at the moment it appears to be against this sites rules to talk about Lewis unless in a very positive note.

Just weird and irritating, and simply mind numbing. I don't get it and also don't get why it is allowed to continue?


3.

#0846

Why when nothing new is being discovered, is this thread allowed to continue by particularly one poster who simply will not let it go. Must be a relative of mine because it reminds me of arguments with my sisters as a child where we would argue black is white, etc. ... sigh.

The facts are simply:
a. The car that Jim has lovingly restored may or may not have a % of the original #0846 chassis. There is nothing more to it.
b. Why does this one particular poster have to prove that it has 0% of the original #0846 chassis?

I feel until the poster honestly answers b. above he should not be able to post in that thread. Heck if I was Jim I would have taken a sledge hammer to the car by now just to shut the poster up.


I just don't get it, and with 2 and 3 why it is allowed to continue?. Are we trying to compete with Facebook dribble like content?

Flame suit on
Pete

 

Yes I used to enjoy discussions in the F1 section. I hardly ever post there now because there is no discussion.

As for #0846, things were better when the certain user was banned. We might as well copy and paste old pages of the thread and re post them

But in regards to replicas, nothing has changed. Some confuse freedom of actions with enthusiasm with old cars. BTW I watched the first 5 minutes of some American hot rod/customising TV show and this guy was asked to modify some 50's Cadillac. As the car appeared to be a survivor the first thing he did was get the numbers checked because he was NOT going to do the work if it was a matching numbers survivor and worth saving! Heck I wish that guy was a Ferrari enthusiast
Pete

 

I don't think I understand your point.

My point was that those 3 areas are dropping the quality of this site. The F1 section in particular is not worth looking at any more and as much as F1 (the racing) is not as good as it used to be, I have actually been watching more races this year than last but I still can't be bothered to discuss it here, except in the Aussie section.

Lastly each replica discussion turns into a P&R type discussion about freedom of actions. This is FERRARIChat, "we" should not be supporting the destruction of any Ferrari! The replica makers probably come here to help them sleep at night and come away with the view "See even Ferrari enthusiasts support what we are doing".
Pete

 

I'm sorry I don't understand your view on freedom.

In regards to Ferrari based replicas, I still think that as this is FerrariChat, ALL people that joined this site actually liked Ferraris and should disagree with this process, but that surprisingly is not the case. BTW saying you disagree does not mean you are forcing others to agree with you or stopping them to do it, so why do we not get 100% agreement that this use of old Ferraris as donors for replicas on this site is wrong?
Pete
ps: In regards to guns, I simply don't understand what is so interesting about them?. Never used one, touched one once as a mate had a few ... I'm very interested in engineering but there is nothing to me remotely interesting about them. The engineering is crude and simple, and I'm sure that my family and I would not be any safer if I had one as because I'm not interested in them I will not have the training on how to use one properly. Note I've never even been involved in a fight post child years. Defend myself ... how?

I have a nephew who is into hunting, just don't get it, but he appears to enjoy it. I also have a (step)son who is a policeman and has a gun for work ...

 

from http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144215666-post70.html

We/I are not dictating, we are/I am trying to understand why members of a Ferrari enthusiasts site don't unanimously support the preservation of these old cars.

It goes without saying you can do what you like with your own property but wouldn't it be great if we, this site, showed a solidarity of NOT supporting the destruction of Ferraris. I believe this would make a small difference and might save a car or two
Pete
ps: I do not have the financial means to own any Ferrari let alone an old one, but absolutely if I did I would save one.