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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

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    There's a cabrio of that thing on the way.
     
  2. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYaDJMs_pg[/ame]

    Top drop synched to Beethoven . . .
     
  3. rmnunez

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    I agree, the S class coupe is really nice. Mercedes design language is starting to come around nicely.
     
  4. tritone

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    Agree, but they still need some serious finesse on the grille/bumper/air intakes and the rear under bumper exhaust valence.....

    Does faux-boy racer really appeal to MBZ buyers?
     
  5. tritone

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    LOL! All of your student designs were better than Lincoln's !!
     
  6. jm2

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    wouldn't have it any other way :)
     
  7. jm2

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    what really bothers me are the gaping intakes on the outer edges of the lower front fascias.......looks like a hooked, large mouth Bass :eek:
    just sayin'
     
  8. jm2

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    What is the likely effect of the emissions testing scandal on car designers?
    29 September 2015 | by Peter Stevens
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    in today's cardersignnews.com Peter Stevens weighs in on the VW emissions scandal and it's effect on design:

    There cannot be many people in the world who by now have not heard the ‘VW cheating emission controls’ story. Screaming newspaper and internet headlines and a never-ending stream of seldom well-informed commentators, having their 15 minutes of fame on radio and TV, have all grabbed our attention. VW’s embarrassment and admissions of guilt are for real and I certainly don’t write as an apologist for either the auto industry or the Volkswagen Group, but it is important that designers understand what is going on here.

    The measurement of a variety of required safety, noise and gaseous emissions from motor vehicles is not a new thing. Crash testing is a very tough but comparatively easy way of measuring how a vehicle protects its occupants in the event of an accident. Recently the effects of the injuries sustained by pedestrians when hit by cars has resulted in changes to the front form and structure of most vehicles; on the whole designers have coped well with these rules that have been introduced in the last five years.

    ‘Drive by noise’ is a regulation that measures the total noise created by a car when passing a calibrated sound-analysing device, and has been with us for years. Ever-more stringent regulations surrounding the emission of a variety of pollutants from the burning of fuels used by internal combustion engines have kept engine designers occupied for almost 50 years.

    The methods for testing emissions have varied from country to country, many of the tests of compliance to the US’s regulations are carried out by what is called ‘self certification’ where the manufacturer carries out the test and declares that its cars comply with the regulations; this even applies to crash testing in the US. But the penalties for misrepresenting results are extremely harsh. For example, the US Clean Air Act allows for a fine of up to $37,500 for each non-compliant vehicle.
     
  9. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

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    I didn't know where else to put this. I figured the regulation discussion might make this designer's choice telling:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz1cVnyFzvI[/ame]

    He doesn't make the link between his profession and choice of car, but I love that he owns/loves a "pure" one.
     
  10. jm2

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    thanks for posting
    awesome artist, and a cool choice for his car
    didn't say where he worked though
     
  11. technom3

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    The styling que that ALWAYS fails and drives me up the wall is what I call a frown line or baggy eyes.

    I am clearly not a designer. My intention was to do that professionally but it all came crashing once I couldn't draw a stick figure. Its in my head, but I just can't get it to come out of my finger tips. I could probably clay model something... but never could put pen to paper or even in the computer... Anways back to my rant...

    What I am referring to is anything that has a downward slope on the front or the rear front head on. So if you are only looking at the face of the car and the car has drooping headlights like a 02 or 03 7 series it looks TERRIBLE. There is absolutely no saving it. The human eye doesn't not like to see drooping or a sad face. That does show on a car too!

    Nothing should ever look droopy. Its a car made of metal or some other strong material. It needs to look purposeful. A car can be soft and still have a strong look to it. Look at a 250 TR. A car design to me should look very very purposeful.

    Ok maybe this is just a needless rant.
     
  12. jm2

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    Not a needless rant at all
    You would not believe how much time & effort are spent poring over those details, particularly what the 'face' of a car looks like
    Saggy,droopy lines are a pet piece of mine as well.........just sayin'
     
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    I read an exhaustively detailed story on the net about the ugly America Roadster done in '52 (16 built in alloy; one in steel)

    Article here: Untitled 1




    The car was done at the behest of ace importer Max Hoffman and while Brian Long in his book called The Book of the Porsche 356 says Hoffman went to Saturday Evening Post cover illustrator Whitmore for a design the guy who wrote the website on the America doesn't mention any American input . I was wondering if any car design historians that read this site ever heard of Whitmore designing a production car (he might hve done some one off race cars)

    I am interested in those deals where an illustrator who can depict a nice car is asked to design a car as it's two different tasks,. I previously researched Michael Mate who did the Shelby Series I and Bob Peak who did that gullwinged Ferrari 275P for Chinetti. I still think illustrators ain't designers, throw your tomatoes now...
     
  14. Jeff Kennedy

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    I agree that illustrators and designers are fundamentally different. The designer has to think of form resolutions even when the view doesn't show the area. The illustrator is about the 2D representation in the given picture. Yes, the two have cross over points but the good designer has to think in 3 dimensional form and how that is achieved even when making 2D presentations.
     
  15. jm2

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    you nailed it!
     
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    John,

    I was working on Lincoln 1999-2002 designing the brochures and the new logo. At that time wasn't this one of Gerry McGoverns designs?
    Love what your students did for the Lincoln concepts.:)
     
  20. jm2

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    Thanks, and, yes, that was one of Mr. McGoverns efforts.
    He's doing a great job back at Land Rover now
    When he was designing Lincolns, we were sure they were going to do one of the cars they showed, but it never happened
     
  21. Jeff Kennedy

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    The wood doesn't bother me. Actually I think they were a bit too simple.

    The "new" trend on wood finishing is o have deep grain and a finish that accentuates that. Those all tend to be wood species that I do not like. Tight grains and burls are going to be a challenge.

    Jeff
     
  22. jm2

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    I wouldn't necessarily call it 'trickery'
    it IS a Rolls Royce & as the top of the lux pyramid it needs something 'special' to create the sense of occasion a true luxmobile requires
    While it's a bit OTT for me, I'm confident the target customer will appreciate the special nature of the wood execution
     
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    Mmmmm... symmetry. :cool:

    All the OCD,
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  24. jm2

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    high end yachts & Lux cars have shared design influences over the years........Rolls takes it to the next level :)
     
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    I like the wood in the RRs, but not that wood. It look horribly cheap. Like a 1970's basement bar area.
     

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