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    #14226 BBBBBBB, Oct 2, 2015
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    Joe,
    marvellous original livery! Originally black or blue inside ?

    You have always sooo many excellent pictures and amazing data, what a treasure !
    Many thanks again for sharing.

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  2. joe sackey

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    #14227 joe sackey, Oct 2, 2015
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    Ben,

    I believe this car's dark blue interior (with fabric seat inserts) is completely original, down to the original rubber heel-pads and vinyl basket-weave seat-backing.
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    Is there any special history for this Tahiti Miura ?

    Interestingly there is another of the beautiful green Miura side to side.

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    Not that I'm aware of.
     
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    #14234 Nima .Mojiz, Oct 4, 2015
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    This Pic was posted on social media by an Iranian-American who later gave me this version.
    It shows Shah alongside #3303 in St Moriz, Switzerland.
    Some important details here: This particular car had chromed fascia and also used this transit number plate (TEH-3988) in Switzerland.
    According to Mr. Borzou Sepasi, this car was crashed by shah and later sold to someone in Iran in mid 70's. Shah had the habit of selling his unloved machines to other Iranians and even foreigners. He did this to his Bugatti Type 57 and Delahaye. #3303 also looks somehow outdated comparing to his magnificent SVJ.
    After the revolution, this car was confiscated by the government. They did not know the history behind it and thought it was never owned by someone related to shah. Later on, they auctioned it in 1987. It was exported to Europe some months later while carrying another transit TEH plate. Some say Shah's son owned it for a short period of time.
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    #14235 BBBBBBB, Oct 4, 2015
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    The wonderful picture shown by Nima .Mojiz taken just in front of Shahs home (since 1969) called Villa Suvretta located on the private road at Suvretta hill.

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    It is the second production "S" made.

    #276 was the first production car, this was #277.
     
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    John, you scored.
     
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    Yes, you mean #3823 & this #3802

    When was the reinforcement done ? on the 1st Miura "S" ? or later on another one ?
     
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    Cars as late as #3838 did not have the reinforcement.

    Somewhere before #4018 the factory started to implement this design.
     
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    #14242 Olivier NAMECHE, Oct 7, 2015
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    #3838 is in Japan in lime green actually, I don't have a pic of front compartment, do you ?

    but #3874 in USA has it for sure, see below...

    is anybody can lead to a more precise definition of which VIN /telaio really started with the reinforcement ????
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    Hi John, Hi Olivier & all of you here on this great Miura thread,

    Concerning the question about the front chassis reinforcement as shown on the picture posted by Olivier on post #14237, and from my own knowledge, this technical improvement appears significantly later than on the car #4108 that you mention (prod . n°408)

    For me, the truth is almost 100 cars later, more close to April 1970 - together with the vented brake discs introduction / around car prod. n°501. (+/- a few car in this time frame)

    Even within the former published figure of 140 Miura S produced (before the new number of 338 "S" cars later announced by The Factory - in 2005 ?) only the last 100 of them get the benefit of this chassis improvement.

    Easy to verify by observing Miura chassis with Bertone prod nb. < 500.

    Just my few cents.

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    For a good understanding, I'm speaking here of cars originally build by the Factory with this technical feature - not of cars later more or less correctly improved with this chassis detail.
     
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    #14245 SupercarGuru, Oct 7, 2015
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    If you are a member of Lamborghini Registry you can find historic photos of the front of #3838. It shows no chassis support and the front spare tire tread being exposed if you look closely at the photos.

    In addition, I know of two restorers who actually add the chassis support during restoration.

    In addition here are some images of Chassis #4262 that show no chassis supports...

    http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo13/monterey/lots/1969-lamborghini-miura-p400s/1061220

    Also #3814... No chassis supports...

    http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/1112-Lamborghini-Miura%20P400%20S-4.0%20Litre%2012-Cylinder

    It appears that #3874 may have been cosmetically modified.
     
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    Bear in mind that many early Miuras have been improved with this chassis-strengthening detail by the simple expedient of having it welded in, post-production.
     
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    What a great find. Congrats John!

     
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    Joe could you tell me about the varied head rests (in size and shape) I see in early and late model Miuras. There are the smaller more rectangular shape and the taller triangular shape.

    Thank you,

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    These are for the P400, the rest for S & SV.
     
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    #14250 geno berns, Oct 7, 2015
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    The larger taller ones for the P400? I've seen them in both the P400 and the SV's.

     

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