488 GTB (458 replacement)

You may be right. Just not a very professional way to review a car where the sound is a big part of the discussion. A bit further on in the video, there's actually a portion where the exhaust falls silent, and only the dialogue is audible... but the car is still moving...

My point is, in most of the more mainstream reviews of this car, the sound perspective is clearly "inside" the car and you can tell it's so, unless they specifically tell you up front that they put a microphone outside by the tailpipe. Chris Harris and EVO come to mind of well recorded reviews.

But hey, I know it's just whistling in the dark... they'll sell them all, and those of us that want to collect it will do that... those of use that want power over anything else will do that too... and those of us that like what we got, will keep it. Everybody happy !!

 

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See I don't think the 488 sounds like every other turbo car out there. I think it still has that Ferraris sound, not as high pitched obviously but it is still there.

 

It's definitely got something of the F430 going on. It has the same baritone.

 

$this->is Ferrari sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uewX9VEvJrg

 

488 sounds a bit like a modified modern Porsche to me. not bad but not Ferrari amazing either.

 

heres a great sounding turbo ferrari!

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It's not the same between a turbocharged engine built from scratch and adding turbo on highly tuned NA engine. When built from scratch, the engine is not highly tuned, totally depending on the turbo to get the expected power. That's why for the 488, even you get an aftermarket exhaust, it just won't sound like the NA race car, because the problem is not in the exhaust, it's in the engine. It's not a highly tuned engine.
If you add a turbo on a highly tuned NA, the sound will still scream. It's just the engine won't last so long this way.

 

The 488 spider in the video review did not sound great....no excitement.
On the list now for one, but plenty of time to decide.

 

Um, not. I think you're misguided in thinking that a high static compression ratio is the only way an engine can be considered as being in a high state of tune.

 

488 is not for sound lover, people need to accept this or chose other car

 

No idea what he's saying but there's some lovely shots of the Spider in this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b49Y5WgOL-k

 

Well said!

 

Or they could spend 5-8k and make it louder very easily with an aftermarket option; which we haven't even heard yet. It still sounds better than many cars out there.

 

Sounds very good there to me.

 

Lets face it, most Ferrari owners are not into aftermarket thing + you are playing with losing your factory warranty.

 

sound will be louder but still deformed by turbine

 

Yes, the problem is not that it's not loud enough. Nor is the problem that it's a particularly bad sound. The problem is lack of range. It's all rather 'one note' so you don't get that aural cue that the revs are rising as you do in the 458 when the anger rises. The 458's engine note goes to different places which reflect what the engine is doing. The 488s sound always seems to be in the same place so all you get is more of the same.

 

serous question: it's technically possible to remove turbine from 488? it would still have power around 500 hp?

 

It probably a certainty that the engine is tuned in concert with the turbos so simply removing them would unbalance things. But, given that turbos are an external add on I'd guess that, in theory at least, they could be removed and you'd still have a functioning unit.

It's an interesting thought. Mind you, would you really do away with all that extra performance just for 20% more sound?

 

Muffled sure....and the lower redline hurts the symphony as well. But we are comparing to some of the best sounding Ferrari's ever (and some other V10s etc) so, have to keep that in mind.

 

No. You would have to change a ton of internals as the compression of a turbo motor is far different than NA.

If Ferrari built the best 3.9L NA V8 they could, it would probably put out around 500-520HP.

 

It would still work with massive retuning, but it would suck. It wouldn't be responsive, and it would probably be around 400HP IMHO; maybe less.

488 Compression ratio: 9.4:1
458 Compression ratio: 12.5:1
Speciale Compression ratio: 14:1

 

Yes. When I used the term 'a functioning unit' I meant in the sense of functioning adequately at best rather than as we would expect of a Ferrari.

 

Hmmm that might be like a 458 just less power. Good idea