Very interesting spy shots of latest FF test mule!

Looks mean! There is something protruding out of the rear trunk. Any guess what it is for? Ski rack?


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I'm not convinced all that much has changed. The hood over the engine appears to be more sculpted. The front spoiler has definitely changed. But the door handles, for example, are exactly the same. There might be a change do the rear wheel wells but if you line a still from the video up with an existing FF there don't appear to be any significant changes to the roofline or rear end. Of course there is likely something hiding under that the black covering and they might have cleverly shaped it to resemble the existing car.

Can't wait to learn more!

 

The front spoiler will be a bit similar to the new F12 tdf. New headlights.
There will be side vents (air outlets) in the front fenders reminiscent of the old 250 TDF.
The angle of the rear window will be steeper (at the top extended a bit further back = more headroom or more "station wagon-type").
Entire rear bodywork with taillights will be new.
It will have an 8 cylinder Turbo engine.
New FF will be presented at Geneva Motor Show March 2016.

Marcel Massini

 

I disagree, the bonnet ridges are an indication of air box changes for the V8, the rear windows are all taped over to hide the monitoring equipment, the wheel arch extentions are to fool thr paparazzi. Apart from a revised front end to accommodate the turbo not much else is changing and March seems optimistic to me.

 

This doesn't look very different. I'm a fan of the technology in the car but not the current looks.

Robb

 

Thanks Marcel. Death of the V12. Sign of the times I guess.

 

Thanks for the info. In the video on engine start it sounds remarkably like my V12 FF not a V8 turbo. I have been told there will be a V8T variant but there will still be a V12 version sold alongside it for now.

 

That is very sad to hear that FF will now have V8 and even worse Turbo engine...

 

I have no idea where you get your figures from or the statement the 'FF had horrible selling numbers'

The truth is the number of FFs sold upto second quarter 2015 in the UK is 206 units. The average cost new of a 2012 unit was £260,000. the average selling price achieved in the second quarter of 2015 for a 2012 example was £165,000 showing a true depreciation of 36.5% over 3 + years. Not as you say 'shockingly fast depreciation'.

The F12 in comparison sold 258 units upto the second quarter of 2015, at total of 52 more which in comparison is very respectable indeed.

Further if you read the accounts you will see Ferrari are not hanging their hat on the V8 FF to revive their profitability but are conceding the fact that sales in the far east are subject to punative taxes on imports particulary anything over 4 litres. upto 100% in places so the V8 makes sense if they wish to continue expanding in Malaya, Singapore, China, and to an extent Russia.

Even further, the FF (mine at least) averages 17 -18 mpg on my regular runs to Italy and 12 to 14 around town. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and given Luca, Lord Marsh, Me and many others are able to see it's beauty is all that is important.

 

The startup in the video posted certainly sounds like a V12

 

Hopefully they will just add the V8 as the "base model".

 

Maybe they will just do a 'VW' and badge it as a v8 and for test purposes and emissions just run on 8 cylinders then when out on the road give u the full 12.

Live in hope. There is no denying the v12 soundtrack is unbeatable.

 

If Marcel says it will be turbo V8, you can bank on it.

Marcel thanks for sharing some information.

PS as to sound in the video- Don't get too hung up on this. They often test different variants of cars. They were testing a Scuderial type single F1 SuperFast2 almost right up to the 458 launch for the 458, but the DCT won out. So they could be doing their homework for a V12 version in case they want it.

I hear the same thing as Marcel: turbo V8 for new FF. No V12 variant. But who knows? The V12 fan in me would love to see them still offering a V12. I just don't think its likely.

 

I guess we will find out.

 

As a Ferrari fan, losing the v12 in the 4 seater range would be a shame. However as an owner having the last N/A V12 4 seater means I will be more likely to hold onto it than upgrade for a v8TT. I already had that from Maranello with a Maserati 3200GT..

Ferrari have to keep a N/A v12 in the f12 replacement I assume? Or will it get a LaFerrari derived hybrid drivetrain and the F12 is the last N/A v12 GT? If so I need to find a way to add one to my stable before its replaced.

And a 458.

I need more garages....

 

F12 successor will go Turbo and today's listing is one of the reasons. Then the FF successor will also go turbo but for the FFM, due in 2016, I would imagine they will offer as a TTV8 and n/a V12. If they were to do that, that would be a new direction for them harking back to the old days when they did this for tax reasons for Italy with the 308 series.

Another way to get up to 10,000 units

 

It's all very well suggesting holding on to the current V12 version of the FF, but if you use it as a daily driver, there will come a point where you'll have to replace it with something else. I too am a die hard V12 fan, but know that eventually I may have to move into whichever engine variant is in production just to maintain a sensible daily driver option.