F1 trans cars listed as "manuals"

We all know the differences. When a buyer is looking for 3 pedals he doesn't want a F1 and that is what all this debate is about. No need to convince anybody of what is what and what is not. 3 pedals and a stick or NOT. No matter how you call it if there is not that 3rd pedal the buyer will not buy.

 

In the same subject, I went to road test a 360 and not been impressed by the power of the engine compared to my TR I now think I could live with a F1 in this car but I still have to try one.

 

Sort your search for highest price first. The manuals will be on the top. If you see a true gated manual priced with the F1's and it appears to be a clean car with no accident history - don't dick around and buy the car..

 

Newman always tells me that my '76 Boxer will out drag the 360, so I'm not surprised by what you say about the power of the TR vs. the 360.

 

TR has a lot more torque down low than a 360, so easy to see why it would feel that way. Not much of a contest in a drag race, though. Ferrari claims 12.8 seconds for a 360 and 13.6 seconds for an early, Euro TR. Or on a road course.

 

The difference between a TR and a 360 is best represented below. At the very end, they both get the job done


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Who really cares - popping out now to watch the grass grow on the lawn )

 

I grew up with a few TRs in my town and read about them in all the car mags. In my head it was always the 'almighty TR' and to me its blasphemous to compare a 360 to a TR. They both have their places in automotive history and the TR has the fame of been there done that. There is more to a car than just raw speed. I would never challenge my dad or grandpa to a sprint to prove that I am better. My 360 is still a young pup.

 

Here's the way I look at it:

If I go test drive a Range Rover Sport, and I see that it has paddle shifters behind the steering wheel, am I to assume that it is a manual?

By saying that something is a manual because it has paddle shifters means that every vehicle with paddle shifters is a manual. I fail to see how this is accurate.

Just my two cents!

 

We rented a Subaru Impreza a couple years ago that had "paddles" on the wheel. I shifted it into "D" before we drove away. I could shift the gears with the paddles.

No way that was a "manual"..

 

This. The software on the sites needs to be updated.

The 456 had an automatic available, which is a completely different animal than either a three-pedal manual, or an F1 or DCT.

It shouldn't be all that difficult to provide finer distinctions in the drop-down selections on these sites.

 

I drove a Mini Cooper that was the same thing -- an automatic with paddles on the steering wheel.

Night and day different than what you get in a 458.

 

I know. It was "pull back on paddle"... 1.. 2.. Upshift. Slooooow.

I got so fed up after 10 minutes I just kept it in Full Automatic mode.

 

I drove a new Corvette manual that had a stick on the transmission tunnel AND paddles on the steering wheel. If I recall correctly, the paddles were just for selecting the mode of the transmission, rev matching or not. Very confusing to someone who owns an automated manual!

 

I think they did that so they could streamline the hardware and not have to make different kinds of steering wheels/columns. But automatic rev matching is cheating in my opinion though...it's no more manual than the paddles in the automatic Corvettes are.

 

Are we all joking here?? The F1 is clearly a manual transmission. It is listed that way on my car registration. It bucks if I don't use the gas pedal correctly (which is where the clutch is) like a 3-pedal bucks when you don't use that clutch pedal correctly. Automatics don't buck ever!!
There are 3 pedal and F1 manuals. Buyers should be informed enough to know the difference or ask the seller which kind of manual it is!
This thread is pointless!

 

I actually have rev-matching software on my track-prepped MX5. I don't use it as I want to do my own rev matching, but it is pretty cool. All it does is blip the throttle when you hit the brake and the clutch at the same time (assumes you're downshifting). Works surprisingly well.

 

We are all entitled to our own opinions. But, next to Reverse on F1 360/430 models, there is a button labeled "Auto". It is also present in the 458, 488, and every other modern Ferrari. Plus, other manufacturers such as VW/Audi label their automated transmissions as "automatic", even on official sites.

It was just my opinion!

 

I was looking for that button on mine but I couldn't find it.

OTOH so few people actually READ the manual that I guess that AUTO button can get missed... you know like get confused with HVAC controls and stuff..

 

Interesting...because unless my eyes are deceiving me, it sure looks like there's an "auto" button in this 1999 example!
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Yes, and I agree. As I said, I prefer to do my own rev matching.

 

Boring...

 

(mine is a 3 pedal.. a "real" manual. ) I think that's the station selector for the radio. "Automatically" changing the channels. Or, perhaps it sets the brew time for the garage cappucino machine..

And that button with the car squiggling on it.. I can feather the clutch on mine to control the slip on icy roads. Pushing that button "manually" lets the car control that right? hehehe

Such BS to call an F1 "manual".

 

^^ TRUTH!

The for sale ads annoy me to no end as well. Because I click on the 'manual' add and see paddles I'm going to be so impressed I buy the car anyway? Just a waste of time.