theft of cars,make it difficult

Well, we can start with the keys should have been locked away. My husband worked in the luxury/exotic car industry for years and they never left keys in cars. That repair shop should become gap insurance for the owner.

 

We can all presume anything.
Until the police conduct/complete their enquiry,I would suggest that everyone here leaves their suppositions to themselves.

The workshop is highly respected as is the work conducted.

Facts speak louder than ^^^^^^^^^^

 

I hot wired my own Dino when the key broke once. Had no idea what I was doing and I got it started in about 1 minute. Then I installed a secret fuel pump cut off switch.

But, if someone wants to steal something, they will do it. All you can really do it get rid of the amateurs.

 

Why? It's not something worth discussing?

Highly respected? Someone stole 2 cars right out of their shop. So much for "highly respected" now...

 

The above was not discussion,it was presumption of guilt.

Who actually knows where the keys are and you said it yourself,if someone want to steal it,they will.

....and besides that,there is a thread on this in vintage,so perhaps these comments should be moved there as well.

 

Excuse me... why should we assume anything good or bad? Facts are two cars were stolen from their shop.

I don't care how that happened. It shouldn't have happened. The shop is responsible and I don't see the "harm" in talking about it.

 

What's this about "two cars?"

I only saw reference to one Daytona.

 

328 went as well.

 

The OP has SAID,not suggested,that the keys were in the car.
The workshop was RAMRAIDED,I don't know what with,how do you defend a rollerdoor against that,this appears to be a targeted situation.

As I stated,there is already a thread on this in vintage,I suggest a mod move this one there,as well.

 

I did the same thing to my E-type Jaguar years ago. Came home from work one morning and found someone had slashed the top and tried to hot wire it. Of course they new nothing about it having a manual choke and could not get it started. I got in it one night to go out and got about a quarter mile down the road before it sputtered to a halt. Forgot to turn the fuel pump on.

 

one of my cars was stolen about 6 years ago....
from my mechanic's garage where it was up on a lift, the key in a lock box in the office, no license plates, and about 8 cars in the way in front of the exit, at 5:41 am on a sunday morning....knowing that the security company had a shift change at 5:45. so they had to move 8 cars out of the way, lower the lift, find and break open the lock box to get the keys, install plates from another car, and drive out in the 8 minutes before the security team got there....and then they drove to france.

just to say that when they want to steal a specific car, they can get it done.

btw, the car in question above was recovered.

 

Two cars stolen.

It's the shops fault. Breaking down the door only gets you in. It doesn't get you two cars.

 

The fire department requires cars to be easily moved in the case of a fire ... or that is what my father (I think) used to say and why he used to leave all mobile cars with their keys in them ... from memory???

Imagine if a car in a far corner caught fire and all were destroyed because you couldn't get the keys fast enough.

In the end nothing is unsteal-able if they want it badly enough.
Pete

 

IMO this theft seems a bit like an oppertunistic one (i.e. the keys where in the ignition, it was a Ferrari, thieves probably not aware of the significant value of this one until it was all over the news).

Reality is, with these high value cars, the real thieves that steal these and never to be found, you can put whatever security measure you want in there, but short of multiple permanent guards 24/7, if your car is a target, they'll get it. Hiding the keys, removing the steering wheel will only make it a little bit harder for them, but an experienced thief will take it regardless.

Tracking devices etc, put as many as you want in there. Once it goes into a container with lead (?) on the walls, none of your trackers will work. So your window could be very, very small (especially if a truck with a container is parked very close...)

 

Posting it here might be wise if more folks can learn about it..

Fuel pump cutoffs and trackers make sense - but anyone heisting a car like this from a shop wants to avoid > serious decibels < if possible. Cameras in and out of sight are good things to have afterward..

Planning is necessary to implement it right.

 

I'm quite sure there is more to this story than meets the eye. Probably some insurance involvement as well on the owners or shops part. I have a hard time believing that a shop with this caliber of car doesn't have video surveillance.

 

Bingo. Give it some time and the facts will come out.

But proper insurance is the best weapon against theft.

 

My classic cars have a remote battery switch located directly at the battery (in the marine sector such remote operation battery switches are popular). It is operated from the dash with an OEM switch at a standard position and indicating something else. Actually as a matter of security in case of some electric hazard. But as well a simple theft security device.

And one would still need to find out where another switch is to get the car running.

Of course, this does not keep anyone rolling from it away and into a transporter. But helps against "joyriders", at least.

Here in Germany, the "trend" is not longer to shift stolen cars as a whole abroad, but to break them somewhere in Germany and to sell the parts. This seems attractive, since parts prices have risen together with the car values. A well known international internet platform providing auctions and fixed price sales is very popular for fences, making this extremely easy. Buying parts from established and recognized sources only helps fighting this phenomenon.

 

Both my C/4 and 250 GTE have hidden switches that operate the fuel pump.
Probably won't stop a pro, but gave some peace of mind when the cars were in a parking lot for a short period of time.

 

May be a palliative, but it's certainly not a weapon.

 

The Daytona wasn't running according to local news (I live close by). The thieves spent 3-5 mins in the engine bay before getting it started. Must have some sort of Ferrari to do so, in the dark and under pressure. It was also previously owned by Princess Diana's boyfriend Dodi Fayed and Roger Waters. A 328 was stolen too and hasn't been found yet.
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Exactly, at the Munsterhuis fire in 2004 they could not get the cars out because all the keys were in a vault with no access for the fire department. And once they got the keys, it was a big pile... there is a famous picture of the firemen looking at them with the building with Ferraris on fire in the background. An F40 and 26 other ferraris were destroyed, 56 cars in total.

Especially with 60´s and 70´s cars it is not difficult to steal them without keys, even easier if the perpetrator brings modern battery powertools.
Sad sight that Daytona is.

 

The 328 has been found.

Second stolen Ferrari found ablaze in Melbourne's south - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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