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  1. Spyder-Man

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    #551 Spyder-Man, Nov 8, 2015
    Hi Raymond, can you give us an in-depth update on the brakes? How long they have been installed, any test compaison in terms of stopping distance. This is of great interest to me, as one area the CT lacks in, are good brakes. I remember that German company Mov-It, offered a kit. I spoke with the UK distribution, they advised they knew of no one who had fitted the kit. I was not prepared to splash the cash without a reference point.
    Be very interested in more detail.
    Cheers
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  2. Spyder-Man

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    #552 Spyder-Man, Nov 8, 2015
    Thanks for the link Joe, very useful. Seems to have some rare parts. I had a look for a paint sticker on my car. Alas, nothing. With regards to your picture of a young lady laying out on the wing. Is this not reason enough to ensure your CT has a wing? Just in case sun lounger space is hard to find at the beach . . .

    R
     
  3. rmolke85

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    #553 rmolke85, Nov 8, 2015
    My PPG sticker is located on the underside of the trunk. Passenger side, the corner furthest from the cockpit.
     
  4. Autosport

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    #554 Autosport, Nov 8, 2015
    Paint sticker is on the inside of the trunk, passenger side.
     
  5. raymondQV

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    #555 raymondQV, Nov 8, 2015
    I installed the AP calipers in 2002, since then the are in the car, the guys in Germany use obviously the Porsche/brembo 993 Brakes.
     
  6. Maser

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    #556 Maser, Nov 8, 2015
    I've currently got two '87 Countach QV at my place, mine (red/magnolia with red piping) and a friend's highly original QV (red/black). As far as I can tell, neither have a PPG paint sticker anywhere I can see..
     
  7. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    #557 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
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    Here is another image of it in more recent times.

    I have no idea what the official color is called, but it was clearly specially ordered.
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  8. joe sackey

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    #558 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
    Thank you!
     
  9. joe sackey

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    #559 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
    Thank you for conforming, Ive seen this on a number of cars, but I suspect as with much sticker application by the works at the time, not every car received them.
     
  10. joe sackey

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    #560 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
    Indeed the seem to, no affiliation, but worth looking into.
     
  11. joe sackey

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    #561 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
    That's my received wisdom, I have someone in HK who will help me confirm the story.

    Sacrilege (IMVHO) that the color was changed, I understand this happened in the early days whilst the car was still in Australia.
     
  12. Countachqv

    Countachqv Formula 3

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    #562 Countachqv, Nov 8, 2015
    That is news to me! I recall Georges mentioning they redid the tips in 2001 but I also recall he mentioned it to be an Ansa. I'll ping him to get more info on this since he is likely the one who mounted it.
    Exhaust sounds awsome..
     
  13. joe sackey

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    #563 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
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    Awesome images Harry.

    You are right, the car sounds amazing at WOT with a sport exhaust on, but the Countach's Achilles Heel is the brake system.

    Here below is Paul Dennis' son running out of brakes at the track
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  14. joe sackey

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    #564 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
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    Speaking of special-order colors, at the 2015 Marco Turci Memorial Historic Motor Festival in Mirandola, Italy this Countach Downdraft (you can see the power dome through the glass) showed up along with the lovely rose metallic Miura P400S brought by Valentino Balboni.

    Its actually Italy-registered DP.607.SE (Novara region?) and is known to me as a special-order car built for a member of a Royal Family in the Middle East.

    French Blue with white leather interior.
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  15. joe sackey

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    #565 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
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    Here is a car with the original Ansa F1 sport exhaust made in mild steel, note the configuration of the tubes & tips.
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  16. joe sackey

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    #566 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
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    A better view of the exhaust tip configuration on an original system
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    #569 P300V8, Nov 8, 2015
    I was there - the cause was an unexpected change of direction due to over acceleration!
     
  20. joe sackey

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    #570 joe sackey, Nov 8, 2015
    Thanks for clarifying that, I had read that after a few laps the brakes were not what they once were, just as happened to me at Goodwood once.

    Raymond's solution of AP 4-piston race calipers with Ferodo DS2500 pads is the best solution Ive personally encountered.
     
  21. Michael Call

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    #571 Michael Call, Nov 8, 2015
    Here is the same car and it's enthusiastic owner:

    http://youtu.be/KX1ZSXxwAok
     
  22. Robert W

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    #572 Robert W, Nov 9, 2015
    HLA12038 ex Rob Capp. Formerly 185EXY and formerly D590GCD and other reg nos too.

    Different car to pearl/ green RHD D351GYX in post #367, which was destroyed.

    Will take credit for photos in #503 and #504 too!
     
  23. Downdraft1

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    #573 Downdraft1, Nov 9, 2015
    I know the person which founded the Ansa Claasic collection. He is convinced that with today's unleaded fuel, which is significantly different than the leaded fuel of 25+ years ago, the new tips are more appropriate. He is convinced that the holes in the inner tubes would clog up over time.
     
  24. joe sackey

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    #574 joe sackey, Nov 9, 2015
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    I remember Robb Capp, here is 12038 with its 185EXY registration, Robb Capp standing behind the car with his spouse, perhaps this image is yours also. As I recall the car had the big wing at the time he owned it.

    He previously had this registration on a white LP500S.

    Thanks for confirming the chassis number!
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  25. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

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    #575 joe sackey, Nov 9, 2015
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