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MARANELLO 575 MARKET POISED FOR NEXT INCREASE IN THE MARKET

Discussion in '456/550/575' started by canadianferrarista, Oct 28, 2015.

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  1. MogulBoy

    MogulBoy Formula Junior

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    Back in the good old days of car magazines, and Car Magazine in particular, the readers' letters page was often the first section that I went to, followed by the editorial and then deeper into the regular columnists input.

    Online comments on news sites have proved to be unmanageable and it would appear the writing is (finally) on the wall.
     
  2. wolfturbo

    wolfturbo Formula Junior

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    Looks of valuation opinions proffered in this thread. I'd welcome thoughts from people far smarter than me on what the following F1 575M is worth in today's market!

    2002 Blue Pozzi on natural leather interior
    Power Daytona seats with blue inserts
    Leather shelf
    Modular wheels
    No shields
    Hi fi/NAV options
    Capristo exhaust
    Red calipers
    All books & manuals, tools, covers, keys, etc
    3 owner car
    12K documented miles
    Full service history, perfect condition, etc.

    I welcome any input. Best regards to all.

    Wolf
     
  3. canadianferrarista

    canadianferrarista Formula 3

    Jan 16, 2010
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    Hello Rob,

    I am going to form my own opinion and say that this car is at least worth $140-150K USD.

    With the pricing and desirability of these cars increasing, I would not sell for AT LEAST that amount if he wants to sell his 575.

    I am curious to read and see what others on here think and post. :)

    ps: I hope you are still getting drive times in......I am still squeezing in drives up here in Calgary even though the white stuff has fallen. I just wait for the warmer chinook days to take out the 575.
     
  4. wolfturbo

    wolfturbo Formula Junior

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    #129 wolfturbo, Nov 10, 2015
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    Greetings Dominic,

    Thx for the input. Hope you are well and your back is on the mend.

    I am still getting fun drives in - some are even in my new play toy. One word: INSANE!!
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  5. Scraggy

    Scraggy Formula 3

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    Hope you get a chance to visit Ariel, is in a beautiful part of England.
     
  6. canadianferrarista

    canadianferrarista Formula 3

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    That toy does look INSANE!
    If we had a track in Calgary, I would probably look at one of these toys for myself.
    How long have you had it and do you specifically track it?
     
  7. fstncln

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    Getting back to Domenic's (Hi, Domenic!) original question, there has been no mention of the fact that there were about 3,100 550s made but only about 2,100 575s. Shouldn't that enter into the valuation equation? I won't be selling my 575 (which I bought from Domenic) anytime soon so it's just curiosity on my part. I'm having far too much fun driving it to care much about the market value. Other than for a small bit when I got a puncture on the 1,900 mile drive home I've enjoyed every second I've owned it. From my admittedly limited experience of how people seem to perceive these cars I think their value is based more on emotion than on technical merit. Granted, they have plenty of the latter but most people seem to be so blinded by the former that relative differences (FHP vs HGTC, etc.) don't seem to matter much. Since the 575s with 3 pedals are so rare they rightfully are an exception. Still, it just seems to me that many buyers/owners of these cars are not terribly concerned about specs or stats; they're interested in status and the satisfaction of having achieved a dream/goal. Speaking for myself, owning a Ferrari has been a dream of mine but not for status, I could care less. As an engineer I really appreciate the technology and capabilities of the car. As a car guy I enjoy exploring those terrific capabilities as often as possible. As someone with relatively good vision I appreciate the sheer beauty and artistry of such a stylish vehicle. Those are the values I care most about. I owned my 1st car for 32 years and sold it because it's value went up so much. I sold it so I could get another, less rare version of the same car, customize it, and drive it without worrying about it's market value. Can't really do that with a Ferrari so I'll be keeping her for a long time.
     
  8. canadianferrarista

    canadianferrarista Formula 3

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    Ciao!
    Eloquently stated.
    I hope you are still driving your 575 now......Today I went to Waterton National Park by the US border. I put on a total of 475 miles on the car and I am going to drive it until I reach 27,000 miles on the odometer....I'm already at 26,700 for a 2005.
     
  9. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    If all the 550s and 575Ms were 3 pedals, the relative rarity of the 575M would matter. Since they are not, it does not matter much unless the 575M is a 3 pedal or something like an HGTC. Right now a garden variety 3 pedal 575M brings more than an F1 HGTC, regardless of the differing merits of the two, and way more than a 550. Never mind about 3 pedal HGTCs, which are off the charts.

    Saw a reference in a German ad that said there were only 98 575M HGTCs built. Not sure how much credence to put in that number, but it fits with my initial estimates of around 100 built. 575Ms were slow sellers in the late 2004, early 2005 timeframe, so not too many of them out there.
     
  10. MogulBoy

    MogulBoy Formula Junior

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    #135 MogulBoy, Nov 16, 2015
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    I'm about to put my car into storage for the winter. Found a great place just a couple of miles from home with 24hr access but my plan is to leave it off the road until the spring. Absence makes the heart grow fonder so they say and due the the way things work around here, putting a car off the road means you get a rebate on the taxes paid and a reduced insurance bill so the storage effectively pays for itself. Perhaps it is for this reason that the Swiss market remains relatively long on interesting cars because the holding costs are less than you might think and many sellers hold out for their asking prices even though it can take some time to find a willing buyer.
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  11. Jürgen Geisler

    Jürgen Geisler Formula Junior

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    Mogulboy, I already put my 550 into storage some weeks ago due to business reasons..... At the actual weather could have been driven it still. But, there has to be a day for a final drive in central Europe for most of us....


    Saluti,

    Jürgen
     
  12. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I really feel for all you owners who cannot drive your V12 12 months out of the year.

    Of course, we do have snow on the ground today, but that will not last very long.
     
  13. jaticker

    jaticker Formula Junior

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    I skipped to the last page, my question may have been posted.
    I owned both a 365 Boxer and a early 512 Boxer. Had both at the same time, sold the 365
    I wasn't fond of the Boxer.
    My question with all this discussion between the 550 and 575, what has happened between the Boxers price wise ?
    I love my 550 !
     
  14. tifosi_

    tifosi_ Formula 3

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    Do you mean besides the fact that Boxer's (especially 365's) are now approaching $500.000 in value?


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  15. F.Engineering

    F.Engineering Formula Junior
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    Good morning Mogul,
    thanks for sharing .. interesting information..
    And beautiful picture!!!!
    Kind Regards
    Fabio
     
  16. Themaven

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    Sadly, it's hibernation time for us in the damp, cold north.

    Not all of us though..I know a man on this board with a 575 HGTC and a 512TR in a cold land who commutes in one of them them every day, come rain or snow. Respect!

    If I were given six months to live, I'd take my 512M (no traction control, high mounted mid engine) out on a slushy day and cane it.
     
  17. Themaven

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    It's true that the Boxers in the past year have lagged a long way behind Testa/TR/M and the Maranellos in price increases, though they have gone up, esp the 365. But with a 512M and 575M manual now catching up with/overtaking a 512BBi, some people I know are convinced Boxers are undervalued and will rise. Others say buyers are focussed on more modern classics.

    Why didn't you like your Boxers? I have never driven one but always thought they were beautiful.
     
  18. Jürgen Geisler

    Jürgen Geisler Formula Junior

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    For me, honestly spoken, Boxers are totally undervalued, especially compared to the Testarossa prices. But so are Daytonas..... Some cars have raised in terms of value quiet strongly during the last months, but for me personally would never be a decision between a Testarossa and a Boxer...

    So your right Darius, the value of the Boxers should be at least double times of a Testarossa, also regarding production numbers! Earlier Boxers already gone up - for me they are a direct counterpart to earlier Countach's, I expect them to grow up into the same price level. If I would have the money, I would for sure secure myself a carburetted Boxer.


    Saluti,

    Jürgen
     
  19. jaticker

    jaticker Formula Junior

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    If Boxers hit 500 k, 550 should be double that in a few years. The question is do these cars sell based on the attributes or age. I know numbers produced affect all. I think the 550 is a modern 275/GTB4 (I owned and it was a daily driver in 67)based on the WOW factor.
     
  20. canadianferrarista

    canadianferrarista Formula 3

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  21. canadianferrarista

    canadianferrarista Formula 3

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    I am with you and I will still be driving my Maranello until it ices up on our roads. I am getting very close to 9000 miles of driving in my Maranello this year......that was from April until now.
     
  22. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Domenic- That Giallo Modena 575M is a really nice one and appears to be a post 52556 model because she shows the 2003 championship on her. Mine just before 52556 only has through the 2002 championship (Nov 03). Not sure I like the yellow trim on the leather, but I could live with it.
     
  23. canadianferrarista

    canadianferrarista Formula 3

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    I actually saw this car and the Argento car at Ferrari of Ontario in person, when I was there on November 5, 2015. It is a beautiful color combo and car. I don't like standing out in the crowd, but I would definitely own a yellow Maranello after seeing one in person......if I had the extra money kicking around, I would have probably bought it on the spot that day. :)
     
  24. tifosi_

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    #149 tifosi_, Nov 27, 2015
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    I have just started a new thread on this subject on which I posted the promotion ad for the January Issue of Octane Magazine. The title of the thread is: Next Month In Octane - Why the 575 is suddenly in demand!
    See here the ad as well:
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  25. Themaven

    Themaven F1 Rookie

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    Glad to see they chose a TDF one for the cover..

    I drove so many Vanquishes but just never got them.
     

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