Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

The Maccas in british tests are likely ringers with turbos turned up to 11. 918 and LaF are really evenly matched, that's all I care for.

 

thats why need dyno test and weights for these type tests.

 

Really great test by Harris. It covers everything that the internet wants. I once planned to make a test like this but never had the resources.

Anyways... Though I believe the test is fair and square, I do find it pretty weird the P1 is above the competition in such a manner it has never been before. At Anglesey it wasn't that way, nor at Silverstone with the Trofeo R's, even less in Salomondrin's video.
Not bashing the P1, just making an obvervation, I like the car.

 

Different drivers, different tracks, different conditions. The P1 ran with factory delivered Corsas like everyone has been whining about and it did what it did.

Ferrari even spent a bunch of time at the track 2 weeks prior. They were even going over there telemetry in the video to make sure it would be the best it could.

Porsche as usually didn't care and just delivered a car, and now we can start *****ing about it running Cup 2 vs Corsas on the P1/LF

 

Great video, still love all 3.

 

Love this message board for the fact that some of you actually own one (or more) of these epic beasts and weigh in.

I really think that Porsche keeps doing what it does best -- modest claims that are almost always outdone in practice. It is that quiet confidence that is most impressive, letting the press downplay the 918s relevance (prior to its release) and then showing everyone up. I have also seen all three in the flesh and while I really like the extreme nature of the LaF, the 918 really has the classic good looks down perfectly (while still being a head turner). If only the front end weren't so boring...

All epic cars though. The biggest disappointment imho is the McLaren if only because it was pumped up so much. I would still take any of them...

 

Agree, except would argue the Enzo actually proved the better tech than the CGT. It matched or beat both acceleration and lap times (from the few tests I saw) and seems to have been the more stable car overall. I can forgive instability / challenge to drive, if the car is also objectively faster -- but the CGT was not.

In the battle of supercars I would say F40 beat the 959 (though 959 ultimately was the more impactful car, foreshadowing the future of super cars). The Enzo and CGT was closer to a tie. And the 918, both as a technical platform and in terms of actual performance, edges out the LaF.

I actually think the 918 is going to be the more influential car too.

 

all true re 918, but laf is THE one to lust after

 

Indeed, it's practically a draw. Seems that different drivers connect with different cars and thus the differing results in every test. That said it would be fairer to the LF if it too was fitted with semi-slicks as the other two. These tyres make a big difference.

 

So very, very bitter.

 

I know, it's hilarious. He has no dog in the fight, and yet when a test gets done with the P1 on Corsas, he's still in denial.

 

I agree with one caveat: I never cared which one would win out on track. I've always looked at these pinnacles as ridiculously capable street cars. From that POV, and factoring in my own biases and gross inexperience with machines with anywhere near this level of performance, the LaF "wins" -- and like many here, I have a serious crush on the other two manufacturers, Porsche especially.

 

Thanks for clearing up the issue for me. I obviously crossed Track with Race somewhere -- must be all that onion chopping I do . . .

 

After watching the hot laps side by side.

918 dominates in lower/medium speed and on the brakes.

It carries 6/7mph+ on the other two in slow/medium corners.


At finish line.
P1 177 mph
918 173 mph
LaF 172 mph

apex speed of final corner T16

918 98mph
P1 93mph
LaF 92mph


P1 time gain is all on the straight.

 

Has to be something like this..I dont think tires played a major role in this event.
LaF was out front...and then got WALKED by the P1. Again...how does a car with less displacement, less power and more weight do that?
Someone is not giving us the full picture here.

 

I see LAF at 177
P1 at 180
918 at 174

That's what's expected. 918 would be quickest to 150, p1 quickest to 186.

 

Any reason why in the harris vid at 21:38 or so it shows him without a helmet and then the shot from the outside shows someone wearing a helmet.....?

 

Just re-watched it again.
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Probably Ferrari.

 

A certain McLaren marketing employee was boasting that the P1 can do 1.8g at Portimao with McLaren's superior aero downforce advantage over the 918 and LaFerrari.

But it would seems the pig, aka 918, managed a 1.7g on the same corner and the LaFerrari, with the 'inferior' aero downforce, also managed a 1.6g.

I think I can call the bluff on the downforce part.
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Here are all lap time tests together
It's amazing how close are the times between 918 and LaF
I also wonder the P1 time on Hypercar5 compared with the other two test

Supercardriver:
P1: 58.24
918: 58.47
LaF: 58.58

Hypercar5:
918: 1.18.44
LaF: 1.18.46
P1: 1.18.82

Cars:
P1: 1.53.57
918: 1.53.98
LaF: 1.54.25

 

On tracks with really long straights, and/or right after a high speed corner, the P1 will have the advantage on the top end, and it should separate itself from the pack by gaining a bit of distance, kind of like how those Konigsegg do it.

But if a straight is preceded by a slow corner, then the top speed advantage of the P1 is neutralized. Or if straights are not exceptionally long.

Thermal Club has long straights, but the entry speed to those straights are slow, so the P1 is basically playing catch up the whole way.

 

Rumor has it there is another test planned (funny how these are all coming out now) that is being put together by an individual with the means to provide a Koenigsegg Agera RS (his own) to race against the big three. We will see how the most boisterous of niche auto manufacturers stacks up to their claims.

 

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