Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

All from SCD graphs you guys posted.

 

P1 seems have 1000ps

 

Here is the exact graph from "SCD"
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no hurt feelings at all. just mild nuisance, but in an enjoyable sense...otherwise i wouldn't comment on the matter. it's fanboys like yourself that keep perpetuating the Mac machine. seems you have the same problem that all Mac fanboys have...reading between the lines. all the fanboys crawl into a hole after P1 gets destroyed on track after track. then all of a sudden some manicured, carefully rendered at that, test appears...and voila...you peeps predictably appear "P1 wins, deal with it..blah blah blah.."

 

Ignore the standing mile times, speeds, whilst they are accurate we had to lift just before the mile marker, due to safety reason's. The end of the runway was being used. The idea was to run up to 300kph, flat out which we did do.

 

There is no any doubt all of these three hyper cars are spectaculars, also without any doubt the results between the three are track depending, but the 918 can set a better time in most types of tracks for sure it is because of the far better handling and 4WD, 4WS, 1280 n.m of torque..., P1 can set better times in track with a long straights only (for gaining speeds of more than 180Mph) and LaFerrari skills also confirmed at Hyper5 test with a time very close to the winner(918) I think the key factor for superb performance of LaFerrari at Hyper5 lap time was due to the use of a professional driver , it seems to me there is more potential in LaFerrari and for sure Harris can not test it at 10/10...

All the three are spectacular hyper cars just look at to Hyper5 lap times, these three hybrid mega cars destroyed Veyron SS and Pagani Huayra with such a big margin...

 

Thanks, I read your conclusion in your past posts, and for sure 918 can perform far better, I remember Car & Driver set their fastest time for production cars with a non-Weissach 918 in 0-180Mph in 17.5 second they beat the Veyron 0-180

 

Here is the graph from Car And Driver for setting their 0-180MPH record with 918
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918's have since accelerated to 60mph in electric mode in around 5 seconds I believe. Car and Driver ran that test with a pre production version I believe and there have been upgrades since. It would be interesting if they re ran the acceleration with a WP car. Likely get to 180 a second or so faster I'd bet.

 

Lafe did 0-300 21.99 and 26.4s too... 😓

 

Yes it was preproduction 918, and for sure 918 customer cars are a bit faster, remember the MotorTrend test, there were more than a second between the preproduction 918 with production one @ Laguna Seca, also MotorTrend confirmed at the end of their data sheet *All figures for 918 are from Preproduction car so it can a bit faster for customer cars.

 

Now, the question is... according to the performances seen in the various timed tests, can the P1 lap the Nordschleife in under 7 minutes???

 

If this data is correct, then something must be wrong with that LaF.... C'mon!! 0-100km/h in almost 4 sec.?? My Speciale is quicker than this. Either the car is having some problems or the driver.

I think these tests are meaningless

 

Someone posted about there being variability between different cars. I don't believe this. There can't be something wrong this particular LAF. Think about it, if you spent $1.8mm on a LAF and you got the dud that was slower than all the others. I'd sue Ferrari in a heart beat. No chance that random vehicles are just slower. Perhaps it is just more affected by colder weather/surfaces than the others.

 

Colder weather will make the cars go faster.
Maybe its tires are bad maybe they put bad gas, maybe something wrong with the electric motor or maybe the driver can't drive it lacking experience with this car or drives it slow intentionally. Who knows??

This car has to accelerate to 100kmh easily under 3 sec. Nearly 1 sec. is a huge difference with these cars, showing something is wrong

 

Only if it's an englishman to start and stop the clock.

 

Apolo,
Could you ask Supercar Driver to provide video of each of the runs? They could release them a day at a time, to milk this test even more.

 

This particular LF was slower than a few 458s out there. So it seems that there is something wrong with it. You cannot have one LF doing 1/4 mile in 9.7s and another one in 11.2!!!

Just saw that MuratC said the exact same thing.

 

Maybe those 458's were Ferrari 'Press' cars?

Are you talking about the Chris Harris test? Wouldn't the Ferrari techs that were there have noticed if there was something wrong with the car?

Anyways, the comments about the 'bias British press' are idiotic and rather embarrassing.

 

There is nothing wrong with the car. It just launches ****ty in those conditions, for whatever reason. The surface/conditions weren't perfect, hence it lost a lot of time from 0-60. Same can be said about the P1 on Trofeos when you can easily find 12C/650S doing quicker 0-60.

The 1/4 mile time for the LF is slow, but the trap speed is not. There may be 458s that are quicker in the 1/4 mile than that time -- maybe -- but they sure as hell don't trap over 140mph.

 

rather embarrassing is your blanter. there are folks privy to details most are not. besides, when 'the best' get do over's, when details are withheld until 'a later date', etc...when results are carefully worded, when 'lead off' press material differs from actual test results, there is bias. puhleeeese.

 

I don't care if the British media is biased or not and I don/t know what the F-techs are doing but I've timed my Speciale a few times with VBox 20Hz GPS for various tests. If the conditions are right and I don't mess up anything, it is always between 3.0 and 3.4 seconds to 100kmh.

How can a hypercar with 965hp can accelerate to 100 in 3.8sec? Many tests show that it can do it in 2.7-2.9sec

 

Something wrong with all those times. Look at 60 to 100 mph. More than just a bad launch.

 

The surface condition were the best I have seen it in a long time, it had just been swept 2 weeks before for a v-max event, it was 12-14d cloudy, but very little wind. Also don't forget that these are customer cars not factory ones. All 3 cars had recently been checked over before the test....

LAFA Driver grade A "ARDS" qualified

 

All these tests seem to have such different results that, really, I believe it makes zero sense comparing these cars altogether.

Either the cars behave very differently depending on weather conditions, or their performance varies from car to car.

Point is you really cant make sense to the numbers provided from all comparisons.

For example the SCD test laptimes or even CH video laptimes, are so much different than the HYPER5 one. Yes it is a different track for each test and different conditions, but it doesnt make sense for one test to have one car seem inexplicably slow, then the next test having it be equally fast.

From my understanding is that i get the feeling that in most conditions 918 seems to be on top, even slightly. But the LaF numbers on SCD are embarrassing and clearly there is something going on there. SCD numbers make LaF appear much slower than pretty much every other test has suggested.

So yeah, in my view of all things, I believe 918 wins in most everyday situations (lap times and 1/4 mile runs), but LaF aint 2 secs behind P1 in 0-300. Thats absurd.