Spy shot of the '2016' FF

I don't know where you get your figures from......wishful thinking maybe.

A quick troll through what is available in Europe would show you that a typical 2011 FF is around the 200,000 € mark not as you say $125,000 dollars.

Talking to Ferrari in Gent (Belgium Europe) they tell me there is a shortage of used FFs and are always ready to buy if the colour combo is good and mileage is respectable. Further they say good 2011 models will sell all day at €190 - 200,000 but they can't get hold of them.

Let's not make things up to make them worth telling.

 

2012, 84k km, $126k Ferrari FF DCT FRENI CCM OK EXPORT als Sportwagen/Coupé in Silea - Treviso - Tv

2012, 30k km, $159k Ferrari FF DCT als Sportwagen/Coupé in Viterbo - VT

 

I don't speak Italian, but the cheap read one looks like the pic was taken at a Ferrari Dealer in (I think) Leipzig. Also it I believe the description alludes to "a car like this one" and finally it says "Export" in the header - so might be ex-VAT (even if the price lists including VAT). Not the most confidence inspiring advert.

Edit: found it it - Ferrari Dresden
http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=207267761&scopeId=C&isSearchRequest=true&export=NO_EXPORT&makeModelVariant1.makeId=8600&makeModelVariant1.modelId=3&pageNumber=3

 

there are reasons the 84K km car is priced at €119K - 1. 84K km, 2. have you seen the interior? colours are very personal and this is a very personal interior if you ask me

the 30K km car priced at €159K = US$169K. this is more representative of the low-end of the current FF mkt.

i am watching the FF market closely as i will be trading mine in for the FFm as soon as i can put my order in and trying to see what i can do to mitigate the crash in current model FF market, which is inevitable. i'm even considering giving up my FF now as my trade-in instead of Sept '16 when the 1st deliveries of the FFm are expected

 

If you are in USA, you are safe. In Europe Ferrari`s are always more affordable compared to USA.

 

Thank you for proving my point. The black one is €190,800 inc VAT.

 

I see your logic and can't argue with it.

 

I have a log of trading prices.

Not sure that waiting ever helps, if you're looking to sell the time is always now.

If you're looking to save money ... KEEP YOUR CAR. Nothing major with a new FF. New models always have issues. Depreciation on a new one.

Miles low even on a used one. My goal is to keep my 14 for years.

 

I agree with you re getting rid of it now.

However I would be buying the FFm as a long-term keeper whereas I bought current one merely because it was a "good deal" to drive for 18 months as a DD until the FFm is produced. I might take a CHF20K-30K hit on this which I can digest. Firstly, one I bought not a colour combo I would choose nor does it have 50% of the options I would want. No point in trading-up to a current model when I can wait less than 1 year and have the latest and greatest. FFW 8 gear box, 4 wheel steering, the upped HP, new interior, and infotainment are only improvements that would make me love this car even more than I do already.

 

The '14 hit the sweet spot. I intend to hang on to mine as well.

 

I now know a few more facts but have been sworn to secrecy but can declare no Elec and from 20 feet away it looks very much the FF I know and love.

 

So no roof-line adjustment there

 

20 mm....just a little less kick

 

Ask me another........

 

Those 20mm are pretty enough if they applied that lowering on right spot! Thanx for this tip, I am really looking forward what they came up with.

Next question - front and rear lights? Any changes? 488 style like I did on my render? Maybe front with LED bulbs.

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Ferrari_FF_Facelift_by_Tessoart_01.jpg

 

Rear lights like the 612...... 4 of them. Front lights look a bit Cali t and sparkly with it

 

I`ve just applied Cali T lights on FF and it looks promising. When I applied 4 rear lights on back it looks questionable. I am really curious how they integrated four lights since they have pretty wide trunk door (option is to install two lights on door but still it looks awkward). I will post render with 4 lights later.

Next question: New wheels, new shape of mirrors?

 

2 on the lid 2 on the wing....yes ....yes

 

One biggy a la tango delta foxtrot

 

Am I going in right direction? Maybe smaller diameter of lights?
http://s9.postimg.org/nqid3ivq7/ff6505.jpg

Can you be more specific

Additonal question: Any changes on side vent?

 

Very warm....
You will have to work that one out as I'm sworn to secrecy. The answer is there.
And finally yes but not radically

 

4WS

 

It looks interesting in black http://s18.postimg.org/rn08pojdl/ff6554545.jpg

Question: From side view, do you still see hatchback silhouette with hump or is it more coupesih now? http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachments/ff-f12/2165532d1448976679-spy-shot-2016-ff-ff-vs-facelift-ff1.jpg