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Love the Intervallo and de Esfera. Congrats to you and the team for such a prestigious undertaking!

 

Here's my vote.

All the best,
Andrew.
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good choice, but it's not generating the votes I thought it would

 

Thanks, Jeff!
A lot of work went into the cars.
The guys had to do this competition on their own as it wasn't a regularly scheduled class for them, unlike the other schools that treated it as a credited class, but that's no excuse, just a statement of reality.
Once we started, there was no turning them back

 

Reviewed the rest of the views although it still too canned to read all the surfacing. Voted for Duo.

Your teams acquitted themselves well.

The public voting is mind boggling. Wish they would put a minimum age requirement for the voters.

Jeff

 

Should have mentioned that Ferrari has chosen it's winner, and the public voting is just a way to generate public interest. They will announce the winner in January.

 

Dear John,

Dennis notes that he has known you "forever", and that he considers you a "great guy and Designer."

Appreciate your and Jeff's opinions pointing out the variety of design aspects. What I do know is that for me it is an incredible piece of moving sculpture from 60 years ago. Even at that stage Scaglietti apparently recognized that the under car drag could be an issue as there are five contoured belly pans from just under the front grill to the rear bodywork.

Best regards,

Robert

 

forever, indeed!

 

If I had FB I would vote for Duo. It has fairly sophisticated surfaces and not too much front overhang which almost all of the others do. I think the "double bubble" is a bit too extreme and I'm not sold on the rear, especially the lights.

Actually, my favourite design is Etereo, but it doesn't read as a Ferrari to me; more modern day Alfa BAT.

Random thoughts on the others -
-422 - I actually have no words...
- Parabolica - reminds me a bit of Thomassima II but front is too long
- FL- next...
- FuTurismo - I don't really get the leading edge of the front fenders
- Intervallo - least successful of your group; a bit crude and not very cohesive. Lots of votes though so what do I know.
- Vision F900 - More Caterham than Ferrari I'm afraid
- F247 - I'm with Jeff on this one, but I guess someone has a lot of FB friends...awful.
- Rossa looks more of a sedan for 2040 and de Esfera was done 40 years ago; it's called the Stratos.

Of course, you need to know the thought process and assumptions that went into forming the parameters for each design before trying to understand the solutions each designer arrived at. They must have access to some awesome weed at ISD though...

 

Your point about the parameters used to determine the solution is indeed spot on, but an internet voting contest just turns into a beauty contest, no more no less.

 

But remember the Chrome Cobra's exhortation about beware of designers having to talk too much. My version of that would be: Good design talks for itself. Rationalizing a design with all sorts of explanations means that the design is flawed. No amount of talking/excuses can overcome bad design.

Jeff

 

True!

 

Is it just me, or does Viventerossa evoke thoughts of a future Bugatti more than those of a future Ferrari?

All the best,
Andrew.
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Well that was disappointing. :/

Congrats John, the CCS entires were IMO the strongest of the group. Some of the others were just designs with Ferrari logos on them. I think most have no idea of what the Ferrari form language is. Not to mention who in their right mind does a Ferrari model and paints it black?

I also am perplexed with the trend among design students now to haphazardly fragment every single surface. There is no solidity of form and even surface ends up appearing as if it were simply fractalized in a 3d program. Do they sketch this way also?

 

Not bad but IMO just another generic supercar design. Has zero Ferrari DNA. I've seen the same shape back in '93.

 

one of my criteria to our 5 teams was it had to be 'beautiful'.......difficult to define, but like pornography, you know it when you see it

yes many students sketch 'that' way, it used to puzzle me at first, but once you realize they all grew up with Transformers and Anime, etc. that's their form, frame of reference
i can't tell you how many times a student will ask: 'what should i do with this plain surface?'
they just have a difficult time editing & understanding simplicity of surface....but I'm doing my best to edumacate'em.

what I don't want however is to tell them 'my way' is the right/only way.....,they need to develop their own point of view, whatever their surface development ideas are
but the editing process is the first step in developing their skill sets

the black paint jobs surprised me as well
I would have talked them out of black if for no other reason that it doesn't photograph well
black is very difficult to get the forms to photograph & read well, with silver being the other end of the spectrum.

that's why it's a learning process

 

Today's Autoblog gives the Official Ferrari announcement

Ferrari design challenge looks for the supercar of 2040

 

Design story behind the development of the Bentley SUV Bentayga:

Design Story: Bentley Bentayga ? Form Trends

 

John,

What is the date of the Ferrari announcement at the Detroit show?

Any of your students who worked on the competition already have graduated by then?

Jeff

 

Jan.15 at the auto show
They have all graduated except one and he graduates next week.

 

Where did they go? Trying to figure out if there is more irony if someone went to FCA or those that went to competitors. The "sure enjoyed working on the Ferrari project but now I work on Corvettes" as they accept an award.

Jeff

 

Intervallo: 1 student hasn't finished school, and we're not sure of his plans, his teammate is at GM

Futurismo: both are at GM

Duo: one is working in China, the other graduates next week

 

I'm sure he'll get a job quickly. That design was beautiful.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

I would agree, but I tend to be biased

 

Any chance of more photos, info, presentation on Duo?

All the best,
Andrew.