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  1. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    That is the point. When F-1 has to consider reducing cost to keep a race - it would rather go to a country that has no history of F-1 but a govt that will foot the bill.

    I'm not so sure COTA has not lost money due to paying F-1. perhaps the promoters have made money as well as Bernie, but that usually does not last long. the economic impact to Austin just cant be that great - $500 a night for a Hampton inn room? cant be for very long.

    As for Paddock passes - You can get them easily if you are paying... the challenge is to get them for free... that is hard! or score a VIP one race FIA credential ... that is the golden ticket!
     
  2. crinoid

    crinoid F1 Veteran
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    I feel we put up with the rough around the edges mess at the COTA race back in 2012 because it was so new. The joke has been on us because not one thing has improved since then. Back in olden times they would put some effort into improving the grounds in order to retain a race, now it is what it is and what it is is, as is every new F1 site, is disposable.
     
  3. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    LOL. When SCCA raced there in 2013 we got the porta potties too. They had the building doors 99% locked to keep us riff raff out and not mess up the flush toilets.
     
  4. Kiwi Nick

    Kiwi Nick Formula 3

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    I agree with everything you said. And, I would add, Bernie isn't really interested in the American market. The fee paid by Baku, Sochi or Singapore is just as spendable as the fee paid by COTA, the Glen, Indy or any other venue in America. And the TV fees paid to FOM don't change one whit with or without a USGP.
     
  5. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    I think its actually personal with Bernie. when he comes here - anyone from F-1 for that matter, they are practically invisible. even Schumacher used to come here because he was virtally un known.

    When Bernie goes to Azerbijan or Singapore - he is a big shot, but when you come to the USA, he's just another rich brit.... so what. I think that is really what is at play. ego. he and F-1 are fawned upon but not here. its a catch 22 - to be fawned upon in the USA you have to get famous here ( of infamous) but that means doing something on your own to promote yourself ... F-1 does not do that....
     
  6. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    that's actually a great point.

    when Bernie bought that mansion in west London, it was major news. "F1 boss buys palace" and so forth.

    when his kid bought that mansion in LA, nobody cared. meh, another trust fund brat from overseas buys a house. big deal.

    ;)
     
  7. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Well, she DID get that cool rock crystal bath tub.....:D :D

    And, totally unrelated, by chance.. a friend of mine here in Houston did some art, for the house....

    "Do you know this 'Tamara', Alan, her dad is some big shot, in racing.....??"
    :D :D :D
     
  8. hairy_scotsman

    hairy_scotsman Formula 3

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    COTA just announced the 2016 season GA pass on sale Friday through Monday. Looks like they're making Ferrari Challenge a stand-alone event like they did with PWC last year.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. hairy_scotsman

    hairy_scotsman Formula 3

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  10. hairy_scotsman

    hairy_scotsman Formula 3

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    @SkySportsF1
    Bernie Ecclestone tells Sky #USGP will go ahead at @circuitamericas in 2016 skysports.tv/GQCXzg #SkyF1

    Ecclestone told Sky’s Craig Slater: “It will be. For sure. They will sort their finances out.”
     
  11. BMWairhead

    BMWairhead Formula 3

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    That was his party line re: New Jersey for quite some time...where did that end up...?
     
  12. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Hasn't had a better offer











    Yet
     
  13. Rob in Potomac

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    Is the NJ event dead in its tracks? Just leaving all facilities and roadwork under construction as is and walking away from all the effort?
     
  14. Sellnit

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    Wasn't the rumor floating out there that Bernie himself has put money into the NJ project?
     
  15. BMWairhead

    BMWairhead Formula 3

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    Apparently it's not dead yet...not really breathing, but not dead.

    F1: Bernie Ecclestone still looking at New Jersey race | FOX Sports

     
  16. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Ducati Club will be in Turn 12 again for MotoGP...they'd better allow the damn flags this year!!
     
  17. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Got my Forza today. Article which is probably old news, reports that the state of Texas is reducing its support of COTA from $25 million to $20 million in 2016. They speculate this will mean the end of the race.
     
  18. tatcat

    tatcat F1 World Champ
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    just checked cota site
    packages on sale but no tickets yet
     
  19. scudF1

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    Don't be surprised if there isn't any. They are still short on money from last season.
     
  20. hairy_scotsman

    hairy_scotsman Formula 3

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    Y'all don't sweat the race. It's gonna happen. There is no way anyone, esp COTA, would just leave $20M in free money on the table --- $5M decrease or not. They're just posturing, trying to pressure the Governor's office into changing the formula and giving them more money.
     
  21. hairy_scotsman

    hairy_scotsman Formula 3

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  22. stever

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    Yah but.......Madoff kept on accepting new investors til the end, didn't he? :)
     
  23. hookem

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    The governor changing the formula was what got the race into "provisional" status this year. If anything, they should be lobbying against the change.
     
  24. hairy_scotsman

    hairy_scotsman Formula 3

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    #249 hairy_scotsman, Feb 15, 2016
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    Yeah, I mean they're lobbying for it to be changed back to the formula that was so good to them.

    In case any of you are interested in a seating package, here is the updated link: http://cotaexperiences.com/2016-formula-1-united-states-grand-prix/view-ticket-packages It appears to be active now.
     
  25. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I have my MotoGP package, as posted above.

    They are "still there"...I have a straight line number, if anyone needs it.
    The websites are terrible....
     

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