Dave helms upgrades... question on value/cost?

I forgot about that thread back then Wade. That was when I went to AW to photograph them.

I was just poking around on just that subject and Eurospares has them at 98 sterling , around $150 each without clamps as well.

 

So, it looks like we're coming full circle again.

If one were to replicate DH's 13 piece 355 kit using other silicone hoses (from various sources), including clamps, the total price is high enough that, well,,,

 

thank you, I'm honored.

Remember this is about choice and the freedom to choose what ever you want.
Or do you have an issue with free choice?

As for the hoses I purchased....I DID purchase them from Daniel at Ricambi and they were SFS hoses.....the standard kit for engine out service.

 

But you don't need the clamps if yours are fine.
And the standard stainless steel clamps cost less than $2.00 each and work just fine.

Hope the drama is not starting again .....

 

+1......and at cold temps is where most of the leaks are people.
just look under the hood of your winter car.

 

These heat exhanger hoses are not regularly replaced unless there is a problem with them.....just a check and reuse.
As for the clamps....re use the original or just get stainless clamps....no issue.

 

Those smaller 1/4 inch lines are available as standard coolant lines from the F dealer or your local jobber (buy it in bulk)....very cheap .
The 2 heat exchanger hoses (are expensive ) are not changed at the regular engine out, even at the Ferrari dealer but are available separately. Mine are 20 years old and still look like new.
I will however do a search for them and see if anything is available in silicone.
The clamps on the DH hoses are nothing more than standard stainless steel clamps....nothing special and dirt cheap to buy (surprised people are making it an issue....have you never seen a stainless steel clamp before ).

 

Maybe if Dave sold the kit without the 2 HE pieces for those that wouldn't typically change them, the price point might allow more to consider using the SRI kit.

Ricambi?

 

These were on my 3.2 Mondial's tunnel tubes - NORMA 32-50

Notice the rolled edges.
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valid point.
it would be easy to offer that option.

SR355H F355 Silicone Hose Kit - Ricambi America, Inc.

 

It doesn't change anything.
I have mixed clamps and there is no issue with clamping or retention.
......but either style works well.

 

question was asked whats the benefit of silicone hose kits.....apart from ease of install and cold weather sealing application......silicone hoses are used on turbo installations where heat is a far greater issue than on our normally aspirated cars.

this is the blerb from SFS Performance site:

"SFS Performance direct replacement hose kits don’t just add race-bred style to an engine bay; they also provide peace of mind. Their high performance construction ensures total component reliability, even if you have modified your engine. Our hose kits can take far higher temperatures and higher pressures than the original parts, and won’t deteriorate, no matter what you put them through."

but go to your favorite performance part provider and read their take on the advantages of silicone hoses over standard rubber hoses.

 

Well I have to call BS on that one as it applies to auto hoses in general and SRI hoses in particular. It has been stated here that SRI hoses are only silicon lined, not 100% silicon rubber, so I don't think that argument would apply to them. In general, what is the big deal about higher temps? The coolant is supposed to be around 200*F max, so higher temps is really little more that a marketing ploy and an unneeded over specification. I can't comment on the better sealing at low temps because it's softer but it seems counter to the idea that silicon hoses are harder to seal in he first place, and living in the NE I don't see a lot of cars of any type loosing coolant in winter. All that said, the answer doesn't address the statement that silicon hoses are better internally.

 

Just offering my preferences... while not stating what's required.

I've had the worm screw strip out on the cheap clamps bought at the local auto parts store on more than one occasion over the years.

 

I hear you on that and have had that happen (worm screw fail) on the generic clamps that cost around a buck.
I pick up the $3.00 stainless steel clamps and have not had any issues.

 

Where to get the fuse box for the Ferrari ?

 

Which model??
We have several memebrs making various retro fits, depending on the model....

Welcome!!

 

Here is something for you guys to chew on.

My parents still to this day use the same bread toaster they got when they opened their first joint bank account in 1958. Yep. 1958.

Have you once considered Dave Helms is 'Very Old School' and also only wants to sell you something ONCE.


I thought not.


Funny thing is, other PROS here feel the same way.

 

Isn't the definition of insanity where one attempts the same thing over and over but expects a different result?

 

Incandescent light bulbs can be made to last 100 years, but they aren't.

Just sayin.

 

Do you think your parents would have bought that toaster if they new it would outlast them, their kids, their kids kids, and every other component in their lives (or car), when they could have purchased a toaster for 1/4 the price that toasted toast just fine?

I thought not.