Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Wow from qatar. Im shocked
where are the other threads on this? I missed them

 

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/288gto-f40-f50-enzo-laferrari/499668-laferrari-starts-smoking-after-being-driven-recklessly.html

 

Understand your skepticism, but I am familiar with the effect of surface and ambient conditions on performance.

Still true that "performance upgrades primarily increased electric motor performance." Note:
- the significantly improved 0-60 mph times in electric mode
- my experience doing acceleration runs with data logging on both an early 918 demo car and a late production customer car (tried Race, HotLap and Electric). The production car was significantly faster (data in my earlier post). The demo 918's acceleration was consistent with Porsche's quoted figures.

BTW, was also told by Porsche NA that customer cars are faster than the early cars used for demos and magazine tests. And yes, Porsche may offer an upgraded battery in a few years - it won't be free but will cost $$.

 

I had posted this some time ago (10-23-2014), but I wonder if those rumors are starting to become reality. I wish I could remember where that tidbit came from...

 

Lol, I have the PDF work sheet for the upgrade, zero mention about e-motor.........also have the v-box figs before and after from v-max......

 

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/288gto-f40-f50-enzo-laferrari/499668-laferrari-starts-smoking-after-being-driven-recklessly.html

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferrari-discussion-not-model-specific-sponsored-algar-ferrari/499741-its-idiots-like-these-guys-reflect-poorly-all-us.html

 

yes, I read up on this. sickening people but at least they got kicked out of america

 

One of my investors has a 918 and some other quite fast cars. I had dinner with him this past week and he told me that after a couple thousand miles the 918 feels like it's even faster from when he first bought it. He recently took his 918 to a runway and ran the standing mile with a data recording device. He had pics of the data readings on his phone which he sent me. I'll just type what what he did since I'm on my computer, it's pretty impressive:

0-60 mph in 2.31 seconds
0-100 mph in 4.72 seconds
0-124.3 mph in 6.85 seconds
0-150 mph in 9.87 seconds
0-186.4 mph in 18.1 seconds

quarter mile in 9.7 seconds at 148.5 mph

He also ran 201 mph in the standing mile which I found very impressive.

We were talking about fast cars we've driven and he in insistent the 918 pulls harder than
any car he's ever driven up to 175. I told him that the F12 is the fastest car I've ever driven. Incidentally, he tested his F12 the same day as his 918. The F12 ran 189 in the standing mile at about 2 seconds off the 918's pace.

Just figured I'd share the data with you all. Merry Christmas!!

 

That 0-100mph, is mind-boggling.

 

Wow the f12 is only two seconds back i find that impressive too!

 

Ya it's impressive from both angles. Yes the F12 was 2 and change seconds slower which is very close, but then again if you've driven and F12 and had your mind scrambled by the speed, then it's more like "holy crap the 918 was over 2 seconds faster in the standing mile??"

 

With the new Top Gear co-hosts announced I can see Mclaren bias going over the moon there. Still hope Evans brings in some Ferrari sanity.

 

Mclaren bias? Didnt jc crush mc12 on initial review?

Old tg was 100% british yet hammond preferred porsche, may ferrari, jc mercedes, etc. With sabine on new show will be even more diverse

 

Clarkson never really "crushed" any mclaren or anything british in his reviews, Needell and Plato did and were banned from reviewing them for a while iirc.
Harris is a Mclaren shill and Coulthard is still very close to them. I can see Schmitz getting in the Porsche and Evans in the Laferrari in case of a supertest though.

 

I remember jc review starting with the fax machine jokes and going downhill from there. didn't he outright say 458 was better?

 

While all other reviews were bashing the car, Clarkson said it was better in every way than the Fezza but he personally still preferred the Ferrari. And from then on he kept talking mclarens up.

 

Chris Harris anti-Lambo

 

Chris Harris anti-whatever makes him publicity. I still can't believe he's on Top Gear now, must have been friends with Evans already. IMO they should have put Tom Ford or Tiff Needell in his place.

 

Top Gear's Top Five: the greatest hypercars in the world right now | Top Gear

 

Left out kegg, ruf, Hennessey venom, and probably others. Need top 10

 

LaF lands on top. Porsche 2nd. Mac 3rd. More is not relevant according to the title of this thread. Even whether you agree or not.

 

I think it is pretty clear by now that McLaren's claim that they set a Nurburgring time of 6:3X(not sure of the exact claim but this is close enough) with the P1 was pure BS. I'm not sure what is(or should be) more embarrassing to McL -- their claim that the P1 would be the fastest street legal car ever produced or the fake Nring record claim.

Actually come to think of it, maybe the most embarrassing thing for McL should be their F1 performance as of late...then again, I don't think Ron Dennis embarrasses too easily, which is a great attribute for a man with his "track" record.

 

Up to someone that doesn't mean the LaF won ??????

 

Ouch lol. I think the consensus from most is that all are great/too fast for the street/desirable. Yes Mac made some crazy claims but that's marketing. Ferrari also claimed sub 15s to 300 kph for LAF and it's slower in a straight line than the Porsche or Mac. These cars are separated by tents of a second, each is suitably different yet comparable. Also, Mac's done a pretty incredible job of putting out wonderful products for essentially a super car start up. F1 performance means little compared to that.

 

oh behave. sure, LaF is probably the most desirable (i say 'probably' because subjectivity is subjectivity), but there's no way anyone can ignore the truth, the facts, in that both Mac and Ferrari wrote checks that their machines could not cash performance wise, weight wise. They made early claims, ran propaganda that simply went sideways once REAL cars found their way into customers hands.