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F1 transmission sticks in gear

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  1. khurley

    khurley Rookie

    Aug 31, 2004
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    Berkeley CA
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    Kevin Hurley
    I haven't seen a thread for this problem, so I'm posting it.

    Yesterday after coming home for lunch for an hour or so, I couldn't re-start my F430.
    The pump primed when I opened the door. When I turned the key to position II, it went through the checks and came back with OK. (The check engine light stayed on, which it always does until about 10 seconds after the engine starts.) The car was in first, and pulling both paddles wouldn't shift it to N. Neither would the downshift paddle; pressing the R button had no effect either. The start button wouldn't engage the starter.
    There were no error codes flashing. I opened and closed the passenger door and the hood, which I think have ignition lockouts - no effect there either. The battery was fine.

    The solution? I released the hand brake and gently rocked the car back and forth a few times. Evidently the F1 transmission can get stuck in gear, and this releases it!
     
  2. ph12

    ph12 Karting

    Jun 28, 2015
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    Los Angeles
    Do you usually park it in gear? I usually park in n but most of the time im parked in a garage with level surface
     
  3. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    Aug 25, 2005
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    Common type of problem in a 360, similar system. Your mechanic should be able to help sort this. Could be as simple as a sensor issue or a setting.
     
  4. khurley

    khurley Rookie

    Aug 31, 2004
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    Kevin Hurley
    I parked it in the garage, on a level surface. But I followed the owner's manual instructions, which are to leave it in first or reverse.
     
  5. Red 27

    Red 27 Formula 3

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  6. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Jul 19, 2008
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    Terry H Phillips
    Sounds like a low battery to me. Incidentally, if you read your owners manual, it will tell you to always start in neutral. If a battery is low, starting in gear can result in the system not shifting to neutral, but trying to start and lurching forward. Has happened to several owners.

    Dealers have been telling owners to leave the car in neutral when parked because they often forget to shift to neutral before starting. This is nonsense. Leave her in gear and then select neutral before starting, just like it says in the owners manual. Everyone here has an IQ well above 100 and can remember to select neutral before starting with a little learning and creating a new habit pattern.
     
  7. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    Try stepping on the brake pedal with all ur weight. Sometimes the brake pedal sensor goes and the car doesn't start
     
  8. hallett

    hallett Rookie

    Sep 18, 2015
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    rick harper
    Disconnect negative side of battery cable. Wait 1 minute and re install. This corrected my problem.
     
  9. KM1959

    KM1959 Formula Junior

    Nov 12, 2014
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    This is what I've experienced, and only if the car has sat for more than a week.

    However, if you need to use the car right away and it won't start I've been able to get it going by hitting the start button even before getting the "Check OK" indication. Not recommended day to day but it does beat pushing it.
     
  10. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    Power cycle is often suggested as the cure all but it isn't a good general practice.

    Taz is probably right. If you keep the car on a tender, you will have far fewer problems.
     
  11. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Does leaving it in neutral when parked hurt anything?
     
  12. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Only when it rolls away.
     
  13. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Ha...that's all I figured. Thankfully my garage is flat and my parking brake works :)
     

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