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Discussion in 'Mondial' started by mondialqves, Dec 27, 2015.

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  1. Jeka

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    All is disconnected, only wiring left now and still 1 ohm. What you can try if you can connect the ohm meter to the pink wire and ground by clamps so you can perform a continuous measurement. If you place your meter on your windshield you can see the value. Now try to push and pull on the cables and connectors and see if the value changes (higher or lower). What puzzles me is why there was an infinite reading yesterday.
     
  2. mondialqves

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    Ok, I can manage that with clamps. Which cables and connectors should I try? The ones you told me yesterday?
     
  3. mondialqves

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    (FYI, I did a measurement on the violet and black wire that is on the black connector of the check panel and is 0. I think this wire comes from the P button in the console)
     
  4. mondialqves

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    Ok, give me one hour please. I need to have lunch too
     
  5. Jeka

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    Have a good lunch! All measurements should be done between ground and the pink and pink/yellow wire which were removed from connector J. No other measurements are necessary yet.
     
  6. Jeka

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    The spade with the pink and pink/yellow wire should be hanging loose.
     
  7. mondialqves

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    Understood. I will start now
     
  8. mondialqves

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    Thats correct
     
  9. mondialqves

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    I I connect the electronic unit for check control, measure: still 1
    If I connect the black connector on the control unit, it goes down to 0
     
  10. mondialqves

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    I connected the first dash connector you told me (the one for all the switchs), report: still 1
    I have connected connector 2: the one for the panel lights behind the steering whell, and then comes to 0 again….
    All these 2 tests with the electronic unit connected and with the black connector from the check panel disconnected
     
  11. Jeka

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    And when you disconnect all the connectors (the three from the instrument cluster (buttons, lamps and clock), the two connectors of the electronic unit and the black connector from the check control. Do we have infinite then?
     
  12. mondialqves

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    yes its 1
     
  13. mondialqves

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    Now first connector from the dash is connected and the electronic unit also and still one. If i connect the second it goes down to 0, i will try connected the third one to see what happens
     
  14. Jeka

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    1, is that exactly 1 ohm or is it like 0.95 or 1.05? Are there more digits? Some meters will display a '1' when the value is out of range.
     
  15. mondialqves

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    It displays only a 1
     
  16. Jeka

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    Ah, that's infinite and good!

    Now you can reconnect the electronic device only (all other connectors disconnected) and measure.
     
  17. Jeka

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    Then reconnect the black connector of the check control and measure.
     
  18. mondialqves

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    Result: 1
     
  19. mondialqves

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    Result: goes back to 0
     
  20. Jeka

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    I misunderstood the '1' in all previous post, i thought it was 1 ohm, this is nearly a short :)
     
  21. Jeka

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    The zero, does this have more digits and what is the range of your meter (ohm, kohm)?
     
  22. Jeka

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    Ah, that's not good, should be in the ohm range! For example if you measure 0.12 kohm then it is actually 120 ohm and your fuse won't blow, if it's 0.12 ohm your fuse will definately blow! Your meter should be in the ohm range.
     
  23. mondialqves

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    So, I need to buy a new meter? and start all again?
     
  24. Jeka

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    No, maybe we can use this one! But all the digits are important now.

    First put the two probes together and record the value on the display, like 0.012.
    Second, if you perform a measurement then record the value.
    Calculate second value - first value, this is the measured value.
     

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