Maserati Khamsin

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Hi all,
Just home from the Interclassics fair in Maastricht, there was one nice Khamsin, see pic and price attached... WOW!

Tom, Belgium
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Thank you for posting Tom,

Not only is that the most ambitious asking price ever posted but the most badly written error riddled sales text I remember seeing, appalling, the grammar is awful and the hydraulic "technique"...what might that be...oh and the "Rema" color? If you want to make a quick buck you at least do a MINIMUM of research.

Did you get the chassis number? I don't recognize the car.

Best regards,

Marc

 

How ironic, I think it is 392...none other than the car on the cover of my book!

Owned for some years by Fritz Harms ex President of the Dutch (Holland) Maserati club, since sold to another Dutchman, I thought he would keep it...

The day we shot that book cover photo in May of 2011 by the statue of Neptune, the one in Brussels, not Modena, is a great memory

Here is a shot I had, same angle as Tom's above, there are few Rame colored cars left.

Best regards,

Marc
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Hi Marc,

Perhaps I am mistaken, but isn't the statue of Neptune you're referring to in the centre of Bologna?

Best,

Jack.

 

Hi Jack of course but there is an identical twin statue by the same author, Jean de Boulogne, a Belgian, in the middle of Brussels and since the buildings behind the one in Bologna are old, ugly and dirty and the one in Brussels is in a park I chose to shoot the cover of my book there

Here are both.

Best regards,

Marc
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Is there anybody else in Maastricht today or tomorrow? There is a Quattroporte body (under restoration). Could you please inquire chassis number and take some pics? Would be highly appreciated by www.tipo107.com Here's a picture of it taken by an other enthusiast, unfortunately I have only this one.
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He is interviewed as one of the buyers of a barnfind (3500 GT Vignale Spider, Sebring and 3500 Touring) in Holland: Drie klassieke Maserati?s gevonden in Brabant | OctaneMagazine.nl
According to the article the cars have been stored for decades, and it should be rather easy to repair the Sebring, the other two need restoration.

 

Hi Marc,

See above you typo, my remark was made in jest and should have contained a smiley ;-)

Thanks much for the photos though!

Best,

Jack

 

Hi Jack from snowy France!

Yes and I had not had enough coffee, you copied my line before I corrected the location of the statue in Italy which is of course not in Modena, sorry but Bologna.

By the way the Italians often use the name of Giambologna for the author of the statues but that is incorrect, he was Belgian (Flemish) and his real name was Jean Boulogne. Of course some in Italy found it too tempting to "rearrange his name".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giambologna

How is work on your macchina progressing?

Best regards,

Marc

 

Another photo in Maastricht: http://www.oldtimertips.de/images/3rd/ccda/2016_ic_maastricht/016_InterClassics_Maastricht_2016.jpg

 

This time a car located in Austria:

Rétromobile 2016 by Artcurial Motorcars - Sale N° 2877 - Lot N° 145 | Artcurial

I do not know the VIN or the owner though. Marc, any idea?

Herbert

 

Good morning Herbert!

I don't know who the current owner is, I mentioned it in post 6023 on this page. Here is a photo of it on the Nurburgring Nordschleife, not by me, and 3 shots I took at the Nurburgring Oldtimer GP 2009.

The bumpers should be black and silver grey not partially red, that should be corrected.

I can't understand the difference in valuation, the estimate, being so large between it and my ex car in the same auction.

We will see what happens in a couple of weeks.

Best regards,

Marc
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I have here a 1974 Khamsin which we are slowly fixing up. This car has a slow speed chatter when turning corners. I pulled the diff cover and it has a lemax differential. orange in color. I believe something has gone wrong with the LSD clutch pack, causing the car to behave as if it has a Detroit locker in it.

My question is, does this diff come from some other car? I googled the name and found a few pictures that look the same, and they appear to be from a triumph TR7/8 or possiably a TR4. Before I disassemble it are parts available for them? But most importantly has anybody had any experience with this issue.

Thanks!

 

The Diff is an English Salisbury Jaguar V12 ( E type?) multi plate unit.

 

Hello all

you can find AM120US1066 on ebay for sale right now
this car was thought to have been destroyed, which is obviously not the case
kurt tanner motorcars selling this low mileage automatic for 107'500 USD

Maserati Other | eBay

 

Correct, it was also used with the E-Type.

Herbert

 

I would say "LIGHT IMPROVEMENT" won't do the job .

Tanner offers another Khamsin for USD 159.500,-- on his website:

Kurt Tanner Motorcars» Blog Archive » 1975 MASERATI KHAMSIN. 1 OF ONLY 155 U.S. SPEC CARS. BROWN WITH TAN TRIM. AUTOMATIC GEARBOX. PROTOTYPE FACTORY SUNROOF CAR WITH TINTED WINDOWS. AN EXCEPTIONAL 23,391 ORIGINAL-MILE CAR WITH ONLY TWO DOCTOR OWNERS.

 

Any diff from a Jag V-12 will work, they are all LSD, also the V-12 saloons and XJS, at least until the latter changed to outboard brakes, but perhaps even those.

You may want to look inro Dana as well, as parts may be interchangeable.

Best,

Jack.

 

Hi Jack,

as I would like to change my US-ratio (3,87) to the European-ratio (3,31) I am searching for a diff. I don't know anymore from where I have the information but it should be a Salisbury ref. 4HU-001-7813/43 (3,31) with self locking (LSD). Can you or anybody confirm that? Does anybody know of a 3,31 to buy?

Thanks.

Herbert

 

Hello Herbert,

Rather than sitting with someone else's problem-diff, why mot look for another ring gear and pinion?

This is why I carefully made the reference to Dana: Somewhere in my Jaguar-memory I have a line that these are the same as Dana, or perhaps even supplied by them.

You could find confirmation by searching the archives of Jag-lovers.org

Otherwise, call some Jag wreckers in the UK, but be careful, most later V-12's had the 2.88/1 ratio, so you may end up replacing ring and pinion there also.

Best,

Jack.

 

Hello Roger,

Ahah it seems the "decapitated" Khamsin has been "re-capitated" after years and years in storage.

This is what I had on it:

"K 1066
automatic
Robert di Chiara
Charlestown Mass

1987 VCM #50 letter p 25
Still w US bumpers

1990 VCM #58 September 1990

Page 54 mention of it being backed into a truck by a mechanic and being decapitated (the car not the idiot) ....no further info on this car that I know of...."

Clearly backed into a high truck with a back end extending far beyond its rear axle.

So nice to see it come out, most of us don't like the speculation but it does encourage the restoration of cars, many were junked in the UK due to rust in the 80's, 90's and in the US too when values were low.

1066 has -it appears- new glass at least the windshield, but all that chrome material (metal and plastic) around the windows is very hard to get hold of and seems original and even undisturbed...it would be interesting to see a photo of the car post damage to understand exactly what the damage was in the first place and before work began but we are not likely to see that.
Love the condition of the interior, just the right patina and no mildew so it was well stored all this time.

In the UK 399 has emerged in really bad shape after a life very much away from the spotlight, I have been contacted by a man who has ended up with it involutarily, he stated it is in really bad shape for having been stored wrong, he does not know what to do with it so I offered to help. He did not say if auto or 5 speed or what colors. More news when I get it.

Best regards,

Marc

 

Hi Marc...

Hope all is well with you!

I couldn't help but notice that many of the cars being discussed here
as of late, plus being offered for sale, seem to have the US bumpers!

Is this a trend back to originality?

You know I have to give you some grief every now and then, just to
keep you honest and down to earth!

It would be interesting to know how many of the remaining K's have
the US bumpers, especially when, according to one ad, only 155 US Spec
K's were made! And before you say it, an answer of 'too many' is not
a good answer!

Mike

 

Ah the troublemaker from Tennessee

I told secret service that Isis has a sleeper cell in Harriman TN with one car carrying particularly dangerous devices front and rear that should be dealt with by patriot missiles, I believe the pentagon is aiming its satelite lasers on your garage as we speak....RUN for cover!

See when I followed you in mine to that concours in....April 2005 (photo) I meant to throw an anchor at your rear bumper and tie the other end around a pole on I95 but no luck....;-)

Well since I am redoing the website offline now with the first few pages due to be online in time for Retromobile (so early February) I will be able to do a new assessment to properly answer your question according to what I know in the next couple of months but I still have 80 to 90 cars missing in total (from the 430 built) but for now I will say about 50 cars left in the US or less...of course out of 10 cars appearing on the market in the US at least 8 end up in Europe on average and you may recall how we concluded that quite a few had been junked due to fires, rust, accidents etc...BUT I love how cars seem to pop up more often due to the market prices going up now, another statistic I will work on is when exactly cars have re emerged out of the woodwork, just like 1066 and 399 discussed in the posts just above. There are a handful of cars in Canada too.

As to how many US cars anywhere still have their bumpers....maybe twenty or thirty? Just my 2 cent guess, with a good portion of them being tired under maintained cars so yours being well taken care of is an exception both ways. Likewise I will have to count when I have some time.

There are more cars appearing now, clearly, than the usual case where somebody passes away and his car stored for years comes on the market.

By the way Mike do you know JB who has AM120US1274 in the Menphis area? I have an email for him but I only heard from him once. All I know is it is white with red interior.

All the best!

Marc
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Khamsin in Celeste Chiaro for sale. Looks like it needs a respray to get rid of the (three?) different shades of light blue. Tyres look a bit small.

According to the ad: "Original Spanish car with left hand drive and 5 speed gearbox. Delivered as US body version but with Euro dashboard."

1975 Maserati Khamsin for sale: Anamera