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My 308QV - my way

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  1. 997

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    #1 997, Jan 22, 2016
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    Hello all,

    I want to share some of my upcoming projects with this car, this is my first Ferrari. Story long short about a month ago I was looking for a 930 and I ended buying this car. I am in PR so the sunny days are more frequently here and the convertible cars are very fun to drive, you can taste the ocean.

    Before driving, I need to put this car in coditions acceptable to me. The car vin is 55255, to my surprise I was looking to replace the exhaust the other day and the guy over the phone at Nouvalari was Glenn Lite, one of the previous owners.

    I ordered the exhaust from Glenn and is now sitting at my garage, when removing the exhaust cover I found that the area was rusted and greasy so I clean it with break cleaner several times and sanded all the compartment to bare metal to later paint it with VHT. The exhaust area receive a lot of heat and the paint had some bubbles so DEI thermal is a no breaner in this case and for this weather is a must.

    Attached is the exhaust compartment.
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  5. 308 milano

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    Bondo fixes rust?... Oh my
     
  6. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    My thoughts too :(
     
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    #7 997, Jan 22, 2016
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    No, you are right, I fixed the rust holes with Bondo and the rust with VHT. Sorry, I speak spanish 24/7
     
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  9. dwhite

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    Why didn't you fix the rust holes with metal. Bondo is not a fix for metal. Glad you made everyone aware of this repair, eh, um, err.
     
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    The repair was just the the metal cover, not the chassis, the chassis is fine. There is a metal cover insulating the heat from the pipes. I covered the hole to have a nice looking paint finish, any other suggestion?
     
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    So it's not metal. Kudos to you for fixing up your car as you can. To some, these are still do it yourself, fun, hotrods....
     
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    Bondo is a really bad way to repair holes. It's just covering up the problem, not fixing it. You should have metal patched welded in, then ground down to be smooth.
     
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    #14 997, Jan 23, 2016
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    Here the is the original radio that came with the car, with a JVC unit that came installed. I ordered a mint condition Blaupunkt radio (mid 80's) to replace the JVC installed. The "original" radio is going to be on storage.
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    I respect your opinion but the problem was fixed and the rust removed. Maybe a one inch hole is something to patch with metal. Bondo these days is not the same as the Bondo from 20 years ago. Any Bodyshop expert here? Search the internet, that fix is very common.
     
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    The problem is not the bondo. The problem is that with a open hole behind it moisture will get between the bondo and the metal and the metal starts to rust again and the bondo lifts off. The fix may be common among poor quality shops or DIYers but no decent shop would do that. They would cut out the rust, weld in a patch and then finish with as little filler as possible.

    Makes no difference to me though. It's your car.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback John.
     
  19. ferraripete

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    Guys the rust was only on the diaper...not on the chassis.

    He repaired the diaper.
     
  20. 308 milano

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    Family owned a body shop for over 30 years. Would never even consider doing a repair this way. BTW, that's not the diaper, that's the lower section of the trunk area and inside frame rails. Like someone else stated...Your car
     
  21. Martin308GTB

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    Metal or not. This 'repair' will not last very long in this hot environment.
    A lot of folks use bondo instead of sheetmetal to hide rust holes. The difference is, they don't tell it on public forums :)

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    Is the metal cover (heat insulation), not the diaper. Rust was removed and the hole was half inch. If the rust continues then I will change the entire part but for now is not necessary in my opinion. Is my car anyway ;-)
     
  23. dwhite

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    If it was the rust you had concern for than it may have been better to just apply the rust inhibitor over the rusted holes atleast then the rust is sealed. The way you choose to do it will lead to a problem down the road. Yep, it is your car and this is an area prone to rust, so why not take care of it once and be done. A buddy of mine is hsving thr same issue and will be replacing the sheet metal.
     
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    I will definitely ask the bodyshop to take care of that when painting and fixing the entire car. For now I am changing the pipe and the work I am doing is more for a clean look to install the Nouvalari system. The car have some areas with rust, including a small location below the driver door.

    The plan was to install the system in a clean exhaust compartment, so when I take the car to the bodyshop they will take care of that. As you can see in the pictures, now the area is clean. The car is sitting in my garage for 4 weeks maybe it have more rust elsewhere..... Thanks to all for the feedback
     
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    #25 GordonC, Jan 23, 2016
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    Interesting! I hadn't realized until seeing this that it's not just the bumpers and door bars that are different between the Euro and US 308s - the whole rear section of the frame is altered!

    First photo is 997's attached exhaust compartment; second photo is my 84 Euro QV with the muffler off, when I was installing a new rear header. Notice how the frame member angling up from the sway bar to the bumper mount is a MUCH larger rectangular piece on the US car instead of the square section on the Euro; also notice how the horizontal frame member forward of the bumper tube is a large built up box section on the US car, instead of the same much smaller square tube on the Euro car.
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