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Yes it's unequivocally Blu Le Mans. It's a pic of my car as someone suggested. Although probably tempered with as it looks very different from this in real life..
@Romo : this is the frozen silver car you wanted to see.Painted aero bridges + horizontal stripe https://www.instagram.com/p/BBIzVDjybTa/
dcmetro- U DA MAN! Nice post and thanks for the effort to find it. So I speced my tdf in triple later yellow yesterday but I became VERY interested in Blue NART after seeing a Speciale Aperta with the color on the stripe as I was leaving the dealership. My car is back on "hold" until I figure out my final decision but I may end up switching to Blue NART.
Interesting developments on the markets as a whole. Prices are faltering on some cars. Seems to be the market is consolidating. Now whilst the 275 GTB short nose hit a big number, two Daytonas were sold at $ 670k and $ 700k. They both looked as if they were in reasonable condition! A 599 GTO was sold for $ 770k at the same auction. Now my question to you all! If you have a tdf would you go for a Daytona or a 599 GTO. The 275 and tdf share many styling elements but the Daytona technically is a similar type of motorcar! And a very iconic one with a lot of racing history. Won't say more, but looking forward to the replies!
Will let more expert opinion prevail. But like burst property bubbles, where real quality rides out all but the worst storms (and is the first to move up when the Sun pops out), the same is for cars. The 599 GTO and tdf are beach front property. IMO the Daytona is not. Same for say a 246 Dino versus a 458 Speciale. If I owned a Dino I'd be rushing for the exit if I was only thinking about the cash, and looking to re-invest into a 458S, which even though it's not an LE, is up c 33% after only a year or two. The Speciale is one block from the beach
What you say is correct, but remember the 599 GTO did not sell well. It then tanked and values increased with the Ferrari hype. So it is a prominent member of the bubble as well. My question is not monetary driven, but as both cars are at the same price now (as they were before the bubble) which one do you get more out of when you have a tdf in the garage. A modern car but much slower than the tdf or a vintage classic which give a totally different driving experience with an awesome engine that can also be revved up to 8500 rpm. And one other thing ask any 959 owner what happens after 30 years to the electronics! We will all be spending massive money on electronic components on our cars of the last 30 years. And hopefully someone will make the parts! Gonna be interesting. Daytona no worries.
Tbh I can only reference my UK experience. The GTO didn't tank, it flat-lined then as you say it then went nuts through 2013. But the GTO also gained ground as the name cynicism was transformed slowly into true recognition it is very special. The Daytona is a glorious car but I know many that have sat in showrooms in recent years. As for electronics absolutely true and in 30 years I will be happy to be worried lol but it's also why the F40 and F50 (I'm not neutral) are gems for the future.
Concur that UK has always been a special market not only for Ferrari but also for Porsches. Here prices went as low as € 260k. It's all nuts now! Challenge Stradales up from € 80 to € 100k to € 250k plus. The whole market has kind of gone 2.5X for Ferraris. The F40 and F50 market was fueled by LF owners wanting to buy all 5. But that is through now so 288 are not being sold at auctions at the silly prices and F40 have also come down. Still far too high for what it is. Daytona sold well here. Now there a 30 cars on offer as people want to cash out. Same to a lesser extent with 599 GTO. When the market finally blows it will be good so car nuts are amongst themselves again. So many people are biting for investment not that it will certainly blow up. The Daytona has a racing heritage similar to the 250 GTO. Even so it has not received the recognition that it should. Maybe just too many around!
For those who are not aware the Daytona had 3 class wins at LeMans! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cXDtHXAHg2o racing Daytona at Sebring! Soundtrack ain't too bad!
Without hesitation the 599 GTO. The older cars like the 365 GTB/4 "Daytona" while wrapped in nostalgia are more difficult to maintain. Not many mechanics now have the knowledge and experience to maintain them properly. Replacement parts can be a challenge and unless the Daytona has been properly restored there will be rust happening. For whatever reason there is a great divide in price between the 275 GTB and the Daytona. That should tell you something about these two V12 Ferrari berlinetta models; especially the Daytona...
Well I have a 275 GTB 6 C long nose so I went through the 275/Daytona process in 2004. Was an easy choice although I still feel the Daytona is a underrated car. Driving the 275 flat out is easily just as much fun as driving the tdf. Need a pretty different driving style. As far as maintaince goes that is very well sorted all over the world for older classics. It's a big bucks business. There are enough specialists around. So that is not really a problem. My feeling is that newer cars are the flavor of the month at the moment. The comments here and the auction results kind of substantiate that. Fair enough. Wonder what it will be like in 20 years time when the car sharing generation are in the money!
'a big bucks business' does sum up the classic car hobby now! Typically younger buyers in the future will want the cars they could not afford when growing up. The 50's & 60's classics of today will hold little appeal for them IMHO. In general terms the 'sports car' market is shrinking compared to the interest in other models.
