When will Ferrari launch the next F12 or F12M

Now that the FF count down is on, I'm very interested to know what everyone is predicting regarding the F12 replacment timing?

I read all about NA vs turbo and hybrid, but whatever it is, turbo or not, when do we expect to see it?

Geneva 2017?
Frankfurt 2017?

Some experts are predicting beyond 2018, I would love to hear what you think.

 

Considering the updated (or new, who knows for sure) FF is debuting this spring, and the F12 dropped one year after the original FF, odds seem good that the F12M/F12 replacement will arrive in almost exactly one year.

Now that Ferrari's gone public, I don't see them slowing down on their rate of car replacement.

 

Agreed Jason. I will guess we see it 3Q 2016 and first shipments 4Q 2016.

 

FF or F12 ?

 

To the contrary, they've articulated a goal of getting to 9,000 units by 2019, so I would assume the product cycle that would be one way of trying to achieve that (though it doesn't seem like a permanent fix as you're not really increasing demand, you're stealing future demand). Seems like at least one other model type would also need to be in the mix -- maybe something downmarket of the California T to compete at the $180K - $220K range?

 

My guess is for the F12-M. FF-M we should see sooner and I imagine we will have first shipments in 2Q this year.

Lorenzo I completely agree with you. I think your other model is none other than the oft rumored Dino V6tt... And they've said over and over no stick shift...

 

Doesn't the thread a few down 2017 F12 already cover this ground ?

 

It's interesting that you are expecting F12 replacment to be revealed so early?
Do you think it's likely to be a facelift or completely new model?

 

I'd be very surprised if that were the case with the V12 line already humming with tdf and new FF.

Last I heard, they had canned the Dino but......

 

My guess is Dino was aimed at the emerging economies especially China but with the recent rather sharp downturn in these economies it makes sense to either can it completely or delay it.

 

Good point Tim. Perhaps I'm a bit early with the F12M- good point about the TDF- that likely gets built for some time.

I don't see how they can reliably grow sales without a new model such as the Dino. They can steal future sales by satisfying demand faster for cars like the 488, but then there will be too little demand by the end of the production cycle.

As to the model per x599, its the refresh for the F12 not a whole new model.