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SELLER BEWARE THERE'S A SCAMMER OUT THERE

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  1. Continental AutoSports

    Sponsor

    Aug 22, 2006
    4,409
    Hinsdale, IL
    Full Name:
    Bobby Williams / Parts Manager
    #1 Continental AutoSports, Feb 16, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2016
    For all F-Chatters who sell or buy on here, be aware of a buyer/seller named Jim Webb, [email protected], hailing from Georgia - however his IP originates in Nigeria and it is disposable. While it unprofessional to get into specifics, "Jim Webb" claimed inventory on a part which we sent a check for. Since check was sent, "Jim Webb' has been amazingly unresponsive to e-mails.

    What he does is copy your post or ad and pastes it into the subject line of the e-mail. He then pastes a generic story into the body of the e-mail claiming to have the part you're looking for but is short on time and can't talk on the phone but accepts MoneyGram only. Additionally, he will claim he can't set up PayPal because he has to pick his wife up at work. From my research this SAME e-mail has been sent to at least FOUR different types of forum members - everything from Ford to motorcycle forums. After doing some research regarding "[email protected]" via Google, it seems he targets want adds claiming to have a part or item, accepts your payment via MoneyGram ONLY then never sends parts.

    Any questions feel free to PM me regarding specifics. Be careful everyone, sell and buy safe!

    https://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/197.210.227.85
     
  2. dantm

    dantm Formula 3

    Nov 1, 2003
    1,103
    YYZ, BOS, SFO
    Full Name:
    Dan B.

    You guys sent out a Moneygram check to Nigeria? How about you sell me one of your Ferraris and I will send you a check for more than your ask since I already have it made out for that amount. When you get the check you can send me the Ferrari and the difference in a MoneyGram check?
     
  3. Continental AutoSports

    Sponsor

    Aug 22, 2006
    4,409
    Hinsdale, IL
    Full Name:
    Bobby Williams / Parts Manager

    To be clear, the check we sent was to Georgia. I found out later - after we stopped payment on the check - that his ip address is in Nigeria. Also, we refused to do a MoneyGram and would only pay by check or PayPal. He accepted check and even sent us an invoice.

    The most important thing is that everyone else knows who this guy is.
     
  4. dantm

    dantm Formula 3

    Nov 1, 2003
    1,103
    YYZ, BOS, SFO
    Full Name:
    Dan B.
    Yes understood, I feel bad for you - tons of scammers out there and Paypal backed by a credit card is probably the only safe way to go.
     
  5. Continental AutoSports

    Sponsor

    Aug 22, 2006
    4,409
    Hinsdale, IL
    Full Name:
    Bobby Williams / Parts Manager
    110% agreed.
     
  6. ebschor

    ebschor Karting

    Jan 30, 2015
    53
    I just sent a Western Union for $3,000 to a Nigerian Barrister after winning THE INTERNET LOTTERY. The $3,000 is for processing fees so they can release my $300,000,000 United States Dollars. I can't wait to purchase a 288GTO and Enzo! YEAH BABY!
     
  7. ///Mike

    ///Mike F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2003
    6,097
    Bugtussle
    Thank you for the warning.
     
  8. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    May 29, 2001
    18,044
    USA
    That was funny 16 years ago, but now that it has been repeated infinitum....no longer.
     
  9. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Sep 5, 2001
    26,458
    Panther City, Texas
    Full Name:
    WJHMH
    When posting photos, always use a watermark.
     
  10. OUMick

    OUMick Formula 3

    Apr 26, 2014
    1,090
    Myrtle Beach, SC
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Kind of like those guys who say their name is something clever like Hugh G Rection?
     
  11. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    May 29, 2001
    18,044
    USA
    Exactly!! :)
     
  12. obertRo

    obertRo Formula Junior
    Owner

    Dec 20, 2014
    343
    Holland, Michigan
    Full Name:
    Robert Clark
    Thanks for taking the time to alert everyone here.
     
  13. bikerbob100

    bikerbob100 Formula Junior

    Jul 30, 2007
    582
    Naples/Spider LK, WI
    Full Name:
    Bob
    If we don't stick together, then Fchat will have other scammers!
     
  14. Dohangs

    Dohangs F1 Rookie
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Oct 31, 2008
    3,121
    Florida
    Full Name:
    Spiro
    Thanks for the info.
     
  15. sevminasyan

    sevminasyan Formula 3

    Jun 24, 2008
    1,156
    Glendale, CA
    Full Name:
    Steve
    No matter how smart these guys get, their ad and their requests give them away. Not saying I could not be fooled but I always offer to give them cash next day when I fly their to pick up my items.
    All of a sudden they disappear. Funny hey ?

    Glad you were able to act fast on him.
     
  16. Stentboy

    Stentboy F1 Rookie
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    May 8, 2008
    2,810
    Texas
    Full Name:
    Ron
    I won't buy something online unless I can use PayPal. Even on this site, if the seller won't accept PayPal I'm not interested.
     
  17. BJJ

    BJJ Formula 3
    BANNED

    Feb 25, 2014
    1,301
    And I, as a side note, am not interested, if a seller requests PayPal and does not accept other trustful methods of payment (credit card or wire tansfer, e.g.).

    Cheers, Bernhard
     
  18. ebschor

    ebschor Karting

    Jan 30, 2015
    53
    Wasn't trying to be funny, just pointing out that things like this have been around since the start of the Internet, so by now when someone says "Money Gram" or "Western Union" or is asking payment to be sent to Nigeria, you can probably guarantee the deal is a scam.

    And, the proper Latin usage is "ad infinitum"
     
  19. Eric C

    Eric C F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 20, 2009
    11,055
    St. Louis, MO
    Full Name:
    Eric
    It's too bad that a few bums ruin it for the rest of us.
     
  20. Continental AutoSports

    Sponsor

    Aug 22, 2006
    4,409
    Hinsdale, IL
    Full Name:
    Bobby Williams / Parts Manager
    Just an update:

    Filed a claim with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) and am forwarding the proper information to said organization. Again, buy and sell safe!
     
  21. tryptomine

    tryptomine Formula Junior

    Nov 16, 2007
    448
    France
    Kronos Composites - also Beware !
    nickname on Fchat is Kronos , he has i think all parts you want, from F40 LM parts to La Ferrari FXX-K , if you want part from Nasa Shuttle , he will make it for you .

    on other forums screwed people , i am hopefulyy returned my 3k$ , i was very lucky.
     
  22. ferralc

    ferralc Formula 3
    Owner

    Sep 2, 2010
    2,153
    San Diego CA
    Full Name:
    Fernando
    I filed a claim with IC3 about a Ferrari that was for sale years ago with the story of the "recently divorced wife that wanted to get rid of her ex cheating husband Ferrari" and I gave all the information I could to the FBI (IC3) long story short, they did pursue the guy and put him 5 years in prison, I believe the guy had a history of wrongdoings.
    So they do not take those IC3 claims lightly.
     
  23. Casino Square

    Casino Square Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed

    Apr 21, 2004
    1,728
    Hong Kong / USA
    Full Name:
    Andrew
    I had a friend who fell for a 'Nigerian' scam once. He was literally planning his trip over there to collect his 'inheritance'...!! It took some serious counseling to finally convince him that he didn't have a long lost uncle who had left him a fortune in a diamond mine in deepest darkest Africa :)
     
  24. Continental AutoSports

    Sponsor

    Aug 22, 2006
    4,409
    Hinsdale, IL
    Full Name:
    Bobby Williams / Parts Manager
    Fingers crossed this guy/group gets what's coming to him/them
     
  25. Manda racing

    Manda racing Formula 3

    Feb 25, 2015
    1,270
    Bakersfield, Ca
    Full Name:
    Mark
    My wife's non- profit organization's bank account has been hacked at least three times with cellphones being bought and delivered locally and tracked down. ($300 withdrawn etc. PayPal etc. ) PayPal reimbursement weeks later.

    The local assistant DA has told sheriffs and police dept not even to bring these crimes to their attention-- not interested.
     

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