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  1. tryptomine

    tryptomine Formula Junior

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    Guys, should I need to put on gear depending on which level my car is stopped ?
    Or it's better to,use only handbrake and don't put on gear when leaving a car ?

    Thank
     
  2. 97 Spider

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    Every manual transmission car should be left in first gear no matter if it is on level ground, point up hill, pointing down hill, whatever. I wouldn't trust one of these hand brakes on a hill at all. At any rate you always leave a manual trans car in 1st gear when parked. Always. I'm sure you can find that statement in your owners manual also.
     
  3. lotusk

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    Always leave car in 1st gear with handbrake on.

    Car will never roll forwards or backwards.

    Remember to put in neutral before starting motor!
     
  4. johnk...

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    Have to disagree. If front is pointed up hill put it in reverse. Downhill, 1st. This will give the greatest resistance to rolling and will assure then there is no tendency to rotate the engine in the wrong direction.
     
  5. tryptomine

    tryptomine Formula Junior

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    But if I leave on a flat surface ? In parking place for long time . Also put 1st ?
     
  6. lotusk

    lotusk Formula 3

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    Leave in 1st
     
  7. Dave rocks

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    Technically, no but it's a good habit to keep in gear. I do leave mine in N in the garage but it's better to form a habit of keeping the car in gear so you don't forgot.
     
  8. 97 Spider

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    All major car manufacturers that I know of disagree with you. They say put it in first.

    Yes, Always leave it in gear. No matter if you choose first or reverse. ALWAYS leave it in gear. NEVER trust your hand brake even if the surface looks level.

    Did I say ALWAYS leave it in gear when parked?
     
  9. johnk...

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    Well, let me say this from experience. My driveway turn around, where I park my truck, is on a slope. If I park my truck nose up and put it in 1st and leave the brake off it will slowly roll backwards. If I put it in reverse, it will hold. So what should I do being that the truck is 14 years old and the park brake doesn't work? Or better yet, what would you do? Put it in first and have it roll backwards, or put it in reverse and have it stay put? All the manufacture is suggesting is to put it in a gear that generally provides high resistance to rolling.
     
  10. drbob101

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    #10 drbob101, Feb 23, 2016
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    The yellow car forgot to put it in gear and the e brake slipped into the red car at an event.

    Keep it in gear when parked.

    WHo is that good looking guy in the light blue shirt??? :)
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  11. tryptomine

    tryptomine Formula Junior

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    Thanks guys for answers.
     
  12. Jackie and bill

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    Was this picture taken before 2007? I ask this because this is the only exotic car prang that i have seen were every one is not holding a smart phone taking pictures/videos :)
     
  13. brent Lachelt

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    That must have been a major bummer :-(
     
  14. marcov

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    Always leave in first gear. If you track the car, never use the hand brakes after a run until the breaks cool off (if not your rotors can warp).
    And never ever ever leave the car in reverse!
     
  15. 97 Spider

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    That's interesting. I would use which ever one actually works for my in the real world. I did say which ever you choose to use reverse of first just definitely have it in gear.
     
  16. drbob101

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  17. johnk...

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    I'd really like to hear your explanation of why you are so emphatic about not leaving a car in reverse. However, for the 355 the manual does say put it in 1st regardless of slope. I would assume this is because 1st does give the greater rolling resistance than reverse. So I'll give you that, although I do disagree. (Although my honest thought is that they say that because if you give people a choice many will just be confused, if they can figure what an up or down slope is in the first place.)
     
  18. Steve355F1

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    Same for the F1 cars. Should always be parked in 1st gear.
     
  19. johnk...

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    #19 johnk..., Feb 23, 2016
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    Ok, next question: When you park on a slope do you put the car in gear, release the clutch, then take you foot of the brake to load the drive train before putting on the hand brake, or, do you put on the hand break first, then put the car in what ever gear you choose?

    Question 2. How to you set the front wheels? Straight ahead; turn into or away from the curb on a down slope; turn into or away from the curb on an up slope.

    Question 3: If you live in Australia.... :)
     
  20. vvassallo

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    I park the car in 1st on level and up hill spots. Reverse for down hill spots. I have my foot on the brake, set the parking brake first, engage a gear, turn the car off, then release my foot brake. I do not want to preload the transmission. The handbrake is used to holding the car stationary; 1st gear makes sure it doesn't move from there.
     
  21. SoCal1

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  22. Schatten

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    #22 Schatten, Feb 23, 2016
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    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Oh and yes, 1st gear and e-brake. Always!
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  23. johnk...

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    I like that Tim. Do you chock the wheels too?

    You know, this really speaks to the dumbing of the general population. Back in '63, when I took my driver's test, they actually used to teach this stuff.
     
  24. Rifledriver

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    Owners manuals apply the KISS philosophy.

    John is correct.
     
  25. drbob101

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    Good enough for me.
     

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