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F512GTB (a F355 with a V12 engine from F512TR)

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  1. MD355

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    MD355, Feb 28, 2016
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  2. ernie

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    I remember something about this a long time ago.

    Never the less it's bonkers. That must have been a huge undertaking.
     
    ernie, Feb 28, 2016
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  3. cf355

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    that is super cool :)
     
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  4. 97 Spider

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    512s didn't have much V in their 12s did they? :)
     
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  5. Mitch Alsup

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    A 180 degree angle V12 is still a V12.
     
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    I was just joking around but I would call it a flat 12. I guess you can draw a straight line and call it a V though. :)
     
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  7. ernie

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    The block is flat and the crank has a VERY wide V = a flat V12
     
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  8. MD355

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    You are right ! It is actually a flat-12 engine from Ferrari 512TR !! The only other car 348/355 with a V12 I believe was the Enzo development mule that I saw in the Ferrari Museum in Maranello !!
     
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    Why would anyone bother doing this... had he put supra engine in there, that's a different story :p
     
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    Anything mid-engined and V12 that Ferrari produced after the 512TR cost Mega $$$$$ (see F50 , Enzo , FXX , LaFerrari)

    So producing a mid-engined flat-12 Ferrari is super cool !!

    Now , a cheaper and easier way could have been simply buying a 512TR...

    So maybe he just found the engine, and already had a 355 chassis without engine around... Who knows ...
     
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  11. tres55

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    I wouldn't be surprised if this car performed worse after the swap.

    Roughly the same power (maybe more torque) with a lot more weight.

    To each their own...but the engine is one of the biggest appeals to me when it comes to the 355. It's appearance is a bonus.
     
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    We have an old 1970 Dodge Power Wagon, original paint never rusted and a 355 engine laying around. There has been discussion of .....
     
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    With that much torque on tap I bet the rear tires don't last very long. :)
     
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    Yes everything must be rebuilt for 1 year work:Bosch/512
     
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    450PS, 315km/h, about 70kg more weigh.... Flat-12 Sound with tubistyle exaust and BMC air-filter
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    sweet :)
     
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    Great project. Did you have to alter the crossbeam behind the fuel tank to get the engine to fit?

    We have a 575 engine to go in ours.
     
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    Wow, that is cool.
     
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    Amazing work.
     
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    Thanks, it is the last built Ferrari 12-flat. For me this is the Ferrari motor. My Maranello is also well, but not so hardcore, like this!
     
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    How did all the extra weight in the rear affect handling?
     
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