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  1. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    [Dons flamesuit]

    I don't think it looks that bad. :eek: ;)

    Sure, it's a change to the status quo, & probably wouldn't have helped Phil, but could certainly help in other scenarios.

    Whether it's 'needed' or not is maybe another debate. Certainly one I can argue both ways.....

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  2. Fast_ian

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    Hmmm..... Anyone got any idea what the silver box & pipe looking thing is in pic #3?

    Not something I've seen before.

    Cheers,
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  3. maulaf

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    I was wondering too. I think it is some part of the pit stop 'traffic light' (or whatever that is called) happening to be coincidentally in a position making it appear to be mounted to the car.
     
  4. PowerSlide

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    looks like a g-string attached to kimi's face
     
  5. Fast_ian

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    Aha! I think you may very well be correct! Good call! :)

    Helluva 'coincidence' the way it lines up. Would like to see some more pix to be convinced.....

    Cheers,
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  6. Bas

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    23.0 for Kimi on soft tires, did a run on super softs but had a lot of traffic in final sector so didn't improve.

    Ben Anderson calls it encouraging :)
     
  7. furoni

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    Could look worse....it would if it was Alonso in the car..;)
     
  8. Remy Zero

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    Horrible. It's just protecting the forehead area. If they are serious about it, get it done nicely like an LMP1 cockpit.
     
  9. Bas

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    Impact from the side are far rarer than the (very rare) impact on front on the head, in open wheel racing. From the rear we don't even need to consider I reckon, the odds of winning the powerball 5x in a row are higher I'd say.

    Frontal impacts are the worst too, I think (i.e. a frontal lobe injury is the most lethal/damaging on your function).

    I don't think it looks as bad as I thought, and I definitely think it'll be appropriate for a sport like indycar where being hit by debris and hitting other cars that are crashing is far higher. That said, wheel tethers have failed before, and the Halo would almost certainly deflect the wheel enough, or limit it's impact speed and save a life in such a situation. Hitting a wheel head on is a death sentence.

    And with THAT said, these impacts are so insanely rare...I'm not sure here but is this a reaction from the Bianchi death? Because this thing wouldn't have saved his life.
     
  10. furoni

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    i belive the halo with glass, leaving onlçy the top open wiould be the ebst soluition, because that way the driver would be protected agains loos pieces and the halo structure would resist to stronger and heavier impacts like cars..or cranes.....the top ope would prevent the glass, or whatever material is used to fogg...and i believe it would look better than just the "g-string"..only question is the visibility with rain...
     
  11. ginge82

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    Only in a sport as screwed up as F1 can a search for safety end up with actually obscuring the drivers view and bolting in a huge frame that could potentially do far more harm than good in an accident.

    I doubt it will be too long before the drivers are complaining that they want this 'decapitator device' banned from the car.
     
  12. 375+

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    Alonso is showing good pace with the McLaren, looks like they are a getting better power from the Honda PU.
     
  13. Bas

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    They sit very low in an F1 car, so view is barely obscured.
     
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    ...but still obscured.
     
  16. 375+

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    Great shot. These cars are looking increasingly bizarre, like insects. We've lost the thread somewhere.
     
  17. joker57676

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    The halo looks like it would prevent exactly one type accident. Nothing but a large piece of debris traveling slowly that does not weigh too much will be stopped from hitting the driver.



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  18. DF1

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    Haas having a tough day again today. Welcome to F1!!
     
  19. Bas

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    view from onboard a 458 GT2. Thick A pilar, massive roll cage, window protection bars.

    2nd pic, onboard the Mercedes. Telemetry ''T'' (?), in direct line of the eyes.

    I think the drivers can handle a thin piece of carbon in the center of their vision.
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  20. Ferraripilot

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    Williams looking really nice out there. They will give Ferrari some headaches
     
  21. ricksb

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    Their time on soft tires is actually faster than Rosberg's from earlier this week.

    Ferrari appears to consistently be about .5 secs behind Mercedes on similar tires (though who knows all of the variables involved)
     
  22. 375+

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    Correction: I thought that Alonso's fast time was set on Mediums, it was on Super Softs. McLaren's times are just ahead of Manor.
     
  23. furoni

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  24. singletrack

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    That is the dumbest looking thing I've ever seen on a racecar.

    Wouldn't have helped Massa. Wouldn't have saved Bianchi. Might have saved Wilson. Definitely introduces new failure scenarios, etc.

    g-string is right.
     
  25. singletrack

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    That is hilarious.

    Actual obstruction to view is probably pretty tiny in reality though.

    The FIA should definitely release the data on what kind of impacts they test and the results.

    Hopefully no one gets hurt by a halo.
     

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