if this is the 70th anniversary car then i am disappointed. i still want to see that mysterious design they raved about..
If you follow ferraricollectordavidlee on Instagram he posted about it (in the comments of another post) today. He believes it is going to FXXK buyers first (and maybe only).
I personally thing this is a mistake, because it is a little unfair for the LaFerrari owners. After all they were promised, that there will only be 499 units. And now Ferrari is making 150 (or whatever) more units...
And some bad taste in the mouth of the 499 LaFerrari owners, when they will understand, that the LaFerrari will become a little less unique.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone that can afford a million dollar plus car that can be flipped for more than twice purchase price immediately from new. Were they ever promised a spider variant wouldn't be made? Doubtful. I always thought the MC12 was cooler than the Enzo, which was partially due to the Targa top.
No doubt about that. I also love the F50 soft top, but it is a little like the Lamborghini Veneno story. A LaFerrari spyder is a great idea, but I think they should just have included these in the total number of units, just like it was with the F50. And it's not about feeling sorry for the LaFerrari owners, it is more about the exclusivity of the brand. In short therm Ferrari can easily make much more profit - they can easily produce and sell twice as much from every model, but will this make sense?
They should sell as many as they can for the most money they can to keep in business and make more cars in the future. More LaFs means more replacement parts sold for servicing and dealers get more service appointments that makes them more money in the long-run after the initial sale. Owners are happy as they can get a car that isn't sold out for sake of being "exclusive." If they want that get something like a Koenigsegg or McLaren F1.
You'd have to have some nerve and insane level of entitlement to complain about being sold a car instantly worth millions more than you paid; a car which many other people would have jumped at the chance to own regardless of how many random versions might have come out. Even if Ferrari makes 1000 Spiders, I'll gladly take an LF off some unhappy owner's hand at MSRP... If exclusivity is that important, that are many cars far more exclusive and valuable than an LF. It's just a matter of how big of a check you're willing to write.
lol. i don't disagree with you. but i recall someone on this forum bragged about how he turned down a lafe offer, i seriously wonder how much of that was true.
No, anyone who was paying attention knew this was coming well before the LaFerrari was released, or right around the time it was released. Anyone who was hanging around these parts during that time knew a spider was part of the program. TOOLFAN talked about it several times. This was not a surprise at all. -F
I'd also point out that even if they said on day 1 that they'd make 150 Spiders after, it wouldn't change anything. Everyone who bought one would still have bought one. No one would say, "Well, I'll take my chances and pass on the coupe and hope I get a Spider instead." They'd all just buy the coupes anyway and hope they somehow got the Spider too.
IMHO a LaF Spider was inevitable. Been saying this for awhile. Ferrari could sell a limited run of 499 LaF Spiders and a limited run of 999 F12 Spiders for that matter (which may never be produced) in a few weeks (if not days). Plain truth is that despite many of us complaining that too many of these cars are being made produced (at least compared to the production #'s of years ago) the reality is that there are simply NEVER enough allocations to go around at MSRP, particularly here in the USA. Blame it on a larger consumerish World population or just to many ultra affluent people in the World. Many in the P car world couldn't get a GT3RS at MSRP and now the new 911R with a limited run of 991 (which is a HUGE # in the F car world) are basically all pre sold (primarily to 918 owners). Anyway, the point is that ALL of us would jump at the chance to acquire a LaF Spider or F12 Spider at MSRP. The factory knows this. They need to generate massive revenue without increasing the # of units sold significantly (at least thats the stated goal). Only way to do that is to increase the individual unit prices. LaF Spider and F12 Spider would be a good start. When looking at recent LE F car offerings the factory could have easily produced 50% more units on cars such as the F12 TDF or 458SA and still completely sold out the run. IMHO the long term values would not have been adversely affected, but obviously thats my speculative opinion. I wanted a 458SA allocation and was shut out. I wanted a F12TDF allocation and was shut out. So for all of those lucky SOB's that are offered a LaF Spider and don't want the allocation kindly PM me and I'll gladly take it off your hands. My 2 cents.
Here is my question to you, how many of these Limited Editions would you buy if they did not appreciate one bit. If their price neither fell nor rose. Would you still buy 6 of them in a span of 6 years? I think the pace at which all exotic car markers are producing these LEs will lead to market saturation, maybe sooner than people think. I see a scenario very similar to what happened to Oil in the past 5 years. Just to be clear, I am not a doom and gloom guy and I love all these amazing machines that are being produced as result of the strong market demand. I also extend a hearty congratulations to all the folks in a position to buy and enjoy them.
Surely if it is leaking this early it will be a 2016 release which could imply there'll have to be something else for the actual anniversary next year
Maybe it'll look very nice and special (a hypercar with no roof!-after the F50 era) but i'd keep the hard top car.
If the F40 production history is anything to go by, the final run was 1315+ vs the initially announced 500 IIRC, undoubtedly has had some impact on value compared to other LE's. However, its stellar reputation doesn't feel dented by the production numbers, which in turn has helped to preserve relative value vs comparables such as the F50 (which trades at "only" a 35%-ish premium despite a 349 car production). By all accounts the increase in numbers with the LaF is less dramatic (maybe 50%) than with the F40.
I would. I would buy the LaFerrari, I would buy the LaFerrari spider. I would buy an FXX K. I would buy the F60 American and then the F12 TdF. I would then get my own unique car (SP project). Now, the V8 special models have kind of stood steady, that might be an example of special models that don't appreciate that much and for me, they are not that special. But for those who have the means, all these special models are just another way, at a higher level than the normal models, to get a new Ferrari, use it for six months, sell it (back to the dealer so you keep your place in line), then get another new Ferrari, repeat. No problem. -F
The LaFerrari and the LaFerrari spider are different models, they shouldn't be put together to come up with a total over 499. The real question is, did Ferrari stick to the 499 for the LaFerrari? What is the word on that? -F
Guarentee me a LaF spider..., better yet, Deliver me a new LaF spider at MSRP and you got yourself a LaF for MSRP.