930 Turbo Carrera

No longer available.

 

I have put a lot of time and research and asked a lot of people who to use for the correct and proper finish and it's sad to say, no one seems to know who can nail the finish correctly. I was told by one person that they had a friend do their trim 3 times and it still wasn't correct and perfect.

 

Live pictures from yesterday attached.

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Patrick,

On a scale of 1-10, what do you give the car? Curiosity. I am not a buyer but the car appears really strong.

 

FWIW the Silver '79 with 500 miles that RM is offering has had an undeserving refinish. Underneath/its private parts all show the signs of an extremely low mileage car (cosmoline underneath is undeniable) but whoever painted the car cut some very obvious corners.

 

8.5

 

Nice. May I ask who's doing the work?

 

Ed Palmer at Kunden Sport, a bit North of LA.
Engine rebuild by Aaron at Burnham Performace.

On a separate note, another very capable restoration shop is Carolina Coach Crafters. Patrick just posted above. With a dozen Turbo's, they really know their stuff and I very well may send my next car to them. Depends on the finished green car and final $ and quality in the flesh.

 

pputkowski - Why only 8.5 and not higher with concours score at 248 out of 250 points? Also RM is estimating $275,000 - $350,000 is that anywhere reasonable? For that kind of money I would think it would be pretty much perfect. But estimates are not sale prices. So I will be interested to see the final sales price.

 

I get it. Excellent original, with well preserved patina, is admired by some and considered needing restoration by others. I had a concours quality restoration shop with my exotic dealership for many years, 1980 onwards, specializing in world class winning 300SL and 507 BMW, most recently shop is doing a Ferrari 275 GTB. In retrospect ( my opinion, not the shop restoration salesman) looking at todays values of these cars, some of them should have been left mostly original with a sympathetic restoration and others were so far gone, due to poor stewardship, damage from rust or collision. For those there was no choice but a complete restoration.

 

Some cars should just be left original as possible, as noted above or if extensively damaged at least taken to a shop that knows what their doing. Either way not so valuable ( desirable ) now.

 

So what did they fetch?

 

What makes you say it was painted? The former owner of that car was a client of mine who passed away about three years ago. He owned it since 1985 and kept it and many other Porsches(and Ferraris etc) in the ultimate man cave inside his house. After he passed the car was sold to Road Scholars, then to a Porsche collector who collects low mileage Porsches in Ohio.

 

1976 930, two owners, numbers matching, 20k miles
Estimate: $275-350k
Unsold: $245k

 

Looking through the 1976 Preisliste, Zubehör, and RoW Driver’s Manual, was it possible to order a factory option for your 1976 RoW Turbo with standard 60-series tires with option Nr. 401? For 1976, Option Nr. 401 would have also required a 930/30 gearbox and 911.641.532.00, 300 km/h speedometer and this is mentioned in the 1976 Driver's manual.

There’s an interesting note in the 1976 Driver’s manual that stipulates that Turbos with 50 % tires (Pirelli P7s) and limited slip, the collapsible tire can only be mounted on the front axle. If you had a flat in the rear, you would have to remove and mount the front wheel on the rear, then mount the collapsible spare on the front axle. This same note with the additional spare tire photo is included in the 1975 Turbo driver’s manual.
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Ready to install NOS 1980s Bosch H4 headlights. These will be replacements for my car as remove, disassemble and clean the date-coded original H4s.

The H4s did not change for 3-ltr Turbos and as a testament to the original design, changed very little through the 1989 Turbo production run. All RoW Turbos used the same H4 halogen main bulb and 4 watt city/parking light. Another nice thing about the 930 Turbo is the ease of finding H4 parts. Additionally, replacement halogen bulbs can be purchased for under $5 - no exotic car price gouging.

It’s unfortunate that RoW Turbos grey market imported to the U.S. had these beautiful headlights removed with the original wiring molested. Bosch still makes H4’s today but they are made under license by Automotive Lighting in Czech Republic and the lenses no longer carry the Bosch logo.
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It had clear runs in the gutters, color/flake disparities throughout, signs of body filler cracking towards the bottom of the passenger door, fuel filler was terribly misaligned as was sunroof, driver's side quarter panel had orange peel under quarter glass that was nibbed but not polished, etc etc etc

I could have picked that car apart for hours - it just did not add up.

 

Did it sell?

 

I was told by a friend whose opinion I highly respect, this car was "ok." Anyone else get eyes on it? Perhaps why it's been on the market for so long.

 

Now listed as sold @ $255k

 

Chris,

Patrick is expressing what he saw two postings above yours. It might not have been clear hence why I am pointing it out.

 

Jamie, my post was commenting on the "500 mile" silver '79 - I believe Chris is speaking of the '76 which I gauged at an 8.5 on the last page.

Regardless, the '76 was a nice car but lacked the authentic feel of a true 20k mile car. It had been touched up in some disputable ways - the proverbial 'whore bath'. Wash where it shows and spray where it smells.

 

Ah sorry. My bad.

 

You would have been hard pressed to find better in either.

 

Its easy to get a BS job if just looking at the odometer. Always get a qualified opinion if not an expert yourself, as at least one of the previous owners obviously did not.