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  1. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

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    No - it's ugly.
     
  2. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Not a pretty car.

    Are those bumpers on the side pods? LOL
     
  3. babci

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    Everybody has a right to their own opinion.

    Mine I like it. How about a poll?
     
  4. brent Lachelt

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    Wings and things😂
     
  5. BartonWorkman

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    #30 BartonWorkman, Mar 11, 2016
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    Unfortunately, no about of livery change will make these cars look good.

    Wings on top of wings on top of tabs on top of fins.

    They're just obtuse looking.

    The only thing I keep coming back to...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp7MHZY2ADI

    BHW
     
  6. TeamF1Jr

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    The stream of the first practice on the Indycar website was down for a good chunk of it and in the adjacent chat room the diehard Indycar fans were pissed off. Waiting 7 months for action and for all that dedication Indycar gave them a broken stream. What a start to the year. Hopefully the afternoon practice will be up and running without glitches.
     
  7. BartonWorkman

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    #32 BartonWorkman, Mar 12, 2016
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    Don't hold your breath...

    It has been pointed out before, but bears repeating.

    This is a series who's title sponsor is Verizon, one of the country's leading telecom companies
    and supposedly on the cutting edge of the latest technology.

    But, even with all this, they can't do something so simple as make their live streaming work.

    I just don't get it. I can count on one hand how many times I've seen Indy Cars live streaming
    on my computer. Most of the time, we're met with a window stating "Due to weather conditions
    action on the track has been stopped. Tune back in later" (SIC). But, then turn on the TV and
    find that not only is there no weather issue, the race is going on without a hitch.

    Someone had better get Verizon on the stick.

    BHW
     
  8. tervuren

    tervuren Formula 3

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    Engineers got to where they could build faster cars than driver's could survive at an acceptable attrition rate to being viewed live by the general public.
     
  9. raider1968

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    I agree with you, I like it a lot
     
  10. BEisler

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    Agreed. Great looking cars. Unfortunately I think there are some "regulars" on this thread who just want to hate Indycar regardless. Is Indycar perfect? No. Room for improvement? Plenty. But a very good racing series that has come a long way.

    Really tired of reading all the negativity from the same people.

    W
     
  11. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    +1

    (and FWIW I think the current cars look hideous, but put on a great show)
     
  12. Turbopanzer

    Turbopanzer F1 World Champ

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    #37 Turbopanzer, Mar 12, 2016
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    Respectfully disagree. Engineers are the problem. The issue of safe design has taken a back seat to entertainment value and profitability. Both have had a dramatic effect on innovaion and a one sided mindest on how these cars are to be built. Form follows function and I have yet to see any engineer create an innovative solutuon to a problem. Innovation comes from creative minds that are un-incumbered by the process of engineering departments or corporate shills. One only needs to look at history to determine that. When manufacturers enter into any form of competiition, the process is about market share, profitablity and return on investment. Innovation comes from those willing to dedicate themselves to a, solution, not a process. If not for those dedicated to the solution of finding stronger and lighter materials, carbon fiber would not exist. Those that began with Boron and the science of it are the reason carbon fiber was developed. No manufacturer brought the idea forward. A creative scientist did. Simple example....if not for the dedicated work of one man that was employed by Texas Instrument, all computers, cell phones and all other electronic devices woud not exist. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both stated that with out his work....they would not have succeeded. He received a wage for his work but his work had far more impact on society than any engineer.Without the silicone chip, nothing today electronic would exist. Engineers provide solutions to design and packaging problems. As others haved stated, the current product being raced is not only unattractive but does not allow the speed of the vehicle to be esclated. In both cases it fails. Form is unattractive and function does not permit a increase in speed. Now....explain why with all the technology available why this exists? Maybe it is time to hit the reset button and restart where we stopped. Since 1996....nothing good has come from the current form of Indy Car. It is time to admit failure, reset and start again with a set of rules....not a specification sheet.
     
  13. BartonWorkman

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    Absolutely right!

    When the series own highly respected champion, Scott Dixon for those who've forgotten,
    comes out and openly states that the current spec formula and attached "aero kits" are
    unnecessary and the series should start moving in a new direction now rather than ten
    years from now, you know something is amiss.

    What little is left of the great tradition of American open wheeled racing is being diluted by
    the short sightedness operating out of Indianapolis.

    Since the series has fallen into such an irreparable state and there is no single magic bullet,
    the time is now to hit the reset button and get back to what they do best, go racing.

    But, instead what we get is all this grandstanding, revolving door personnel and internal politics
    that will be their undoing.

    BHW
     
  14. raider1968

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    Could not agree more - usually don't read the Indy thread because of all the continual negativity
     
  15. PureEuroM3

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    Here we go!

    Turn up the volume and let's get it under way.

    Very happy to see hinch back in the drivers seat.
     
  16. babci

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    +1 I always ponder if they don't need some good cheese to go with the whine.
     
  17. PureEuroM3

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    What was that Andretti...
     
  18. rob lay

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    really only 10 cars? I haven't watched in years, but I see Juan still likes to whine, even when he wins.
     
  19. RWatters

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    Will Power was allowed to race in practices and qualify with a concussion he suffered in a practice crash. After the crash he was feeling ill, but no light bulbs turned on apparently. How this was allowed to happen when concussion talks have never been more frequent or serious in sports is unfathomable, especially considering the death of Justin Wilson last season (related types of injuries or not).

    Indy needs to revaluate their evaluation program.
     
  20. TeamF1Jr

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    He's on schedule for his average of finishing 9th in points every year.
     
  21. TeamF1Jr

    TeamF1Jr Formula 3

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    Good to see Rossi and Daly show well, hope their realization that they can compete in this series will propel them to future long term deals (assuming the series survives long term).
     
  22. GuyIncognito

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    Tim Cindric indicated that the impact wasn't severe enough to concern Indycar; I'm guessing the black box/earpiece data didn't show sufficiently high g-forces to require an examination, and Power either didn't know or didn't self-report until today.

    Earpiece Sensor System
     
  23. TheMayor

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    It was that way for me.

    Tony George killed IndyCar. Ironic, isn't it?
     
  24. GuyIncognito

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  25. BartonWorkman

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    Unfortunately, the sponsors of top CART teams such as Penske and Ganassi thought that
    without the Indianapolis 500 on their schedule, there wasn't much point of continuing on
    with what became of Champ Car.

    This, being the very organization (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) which took in tens of millions
    of dollars for the sponsors of CART teams to host their clients in the Speedway suites just off
    of Turn Two over the course of several years for leases on the suites.

    Tony George, took the sponsors money and when the split happened, refused to refund the
    amounts which for teams like Penske (Marlboro) or Ganassi (Target) was barely a dent in their
    annual advertising budget.

    But, to a company like Alumax, the former aluminum company which sponsored the late Tony
    Bettenhausen's team, this was a significant financial hit. One which was unforgivable and
    one which the candid Mr. Bettenhausen would go on at great length explaining pointing out
    that George took these funds to start the IRL. Nice huh?

    The act was criminal in effect and what caused the CART team owners to decline Tony George's
    offer to participate in the 1995 Indy 500. It was a shame as had the CART team owners taken
    George up on the offer, they would have mopped the floor with the IRL teams of the time and
    the whole issue would have been put to rest.

    But, to Marlboro and Target, the Indy 500 was too big an event to be missing and gradually
    they both came back to the point now where they're all back and we have the resulting debacle
    of Indy Car.

    Such a pity.

    BHW
     

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